Re: [foxboro] Station block parameters - OMSCAN I/A 8.7-ZCP270

  • From: Terry Doucet <doucet427@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:43:00 -0500

Alex,
 
Does the apicfg parameter  fastest_rsr take priority over the delta?   So if 
delta is 0.0, but fastest_rsr is 10 seconds you only send via OM every 10 
seconds as long as there is a change.
 
 
Terry
 
> From: alexander.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:29:54 -0600
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Station block parameters - OMSCAN  I/A 8.7-ZCP270
> 
> Dirk,
> Check the change deltas in use by PI. I've seen sites where they were set to 
> 0.0 which results in a report on every BPC and significant load.
> 
> The change deltas should be set to something "reasonable" for the value. For 
> example, AIN.MEAS should be monitored with a change delta slightly larger 
> than the typical noise on the signal to avoid useless reports. Relatively 
> static values, e.g., setpoints should have small non-zero values that are 
> slightly smaller than the normal adjustment. And so on...
> 
> Best,
> 
> Alex
> 
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> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Dirk Pauwels
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:19 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Station block parameters - OMSCAN I/A 8.7-ZCP270
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> Ever since we went from CP60 to ZCP270 we haven't had any overruns anymore. 
> The om scan is showing no peaks, goes from 8 to 14%. BPC is at 0.5sec.
> I did check the foxray scripts like Scott suggested and there was a script 
> that resets the station block counters every time foxray checks these params. 
> I disabled the reset and I'll check if we have any overruns now.
> I might have expressed myself badly, we didn't change the osisoft scan, I 
> changed the foxapi.cfg. The scanrates in fxbais interfaces are still at 10sec 
> and onwards.
> I can slow down the foxapi scanrate further to see if it makes any 
> difference, but I have to stop PI interface and reboot the host every time 
> and production doesn't like that very much.....
> Thanks & Rgds,
> Dirk
> 
> 
> From: doucet427@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [foxboro] Station block parameters - OMSCAN  I/A 8.7-ZCP270
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:42:48 -0500
> 
> Dirk,
> 
> The OM Scanner load on a CP is driven by the other stations in your system.  
> Unfortunately, there is not much you can do at the CP to change this loading. 
>   I presume you are running 1/2 second BPC but perhaps you are running faster?
> 
> I am very surprised to see zero OM overruns with such a high OM Scan.    
> Could another application be re-setting the value to zero?
> 
> Open the om Scannner overlay and watch the scan at the various phases to see 
> if it is evenly balanced at 10-12% for all phases or to get high peaks.  This 
> might help you find out what OM load is demanding peaks.
> 
> You say that you slowed down OSI software scan to 2 seconds.   In the olden 
> days a 2 second API scan could kill every CP on a network.  You are using 
> CP270 so  you get some grace here but I would try slowing it down even more.  
> At many sites, the normal API scan is 10 seconds.
> 
> 
> Terry
> 
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