All, This is a follow-up to Tom's earlier e-mail. Other questions and comments are welcome. My contact information (as if you don't have it already) is below. AJ Re: InFusion in general There is a lot that I could say, but these are the key points: Infusion Key Messages 1. Visibility between plant and enterprise 2. Unprecedented, affordable integration 3. Unmatched productivity 4. Foundation for business optimization Basically, IPS has a lot to offer customers who want to run their entire business better. InFusion widens our offering to more than DCS, SIS, SCADA, and M&I. It provides us the opportunity to solve a different set of customer problems than the ones most of our daily business addresses. Don't think of InFusion as a replacement for anything. Think of it as an add-on enhancement to what you have (whatever that may be) to run your overall operation better. I/A Series is still our pure DCS. Triconex is still our pure SIS. But, if you Re: FoxView and InFusion View (InTouch plus some enhancements) We have many customers with a large number of operator consoles that run InTouch for other parts of their plants and those customers have indicated that they would like InTouch as an option for their I/A Series equipment. The current InFusion View release supports those customers' needs. FoxView remains the primary operator HMI for most sites since it has advantages when used on existing facilities - display file compatibility, training, performance, scalability of the displays, etc. As for the future (and I've said this before), the HMI that we will be selling 5 years from now is unlikely to be the code we are selling today (InTouch or FoxView) though we expect to support Intellectual Property preservation though display file conversion. In the meantime, current customers do have InFusion View (InTouch plus some enhancements) options that we think are valuable. In particular, we believe that the use of InFusion View to represent a consistent vision of enterprise wide data and information is extremely valuable and it is a core concept in our ECS vision. To that end, you can put InFusion View on a P91 (Win2K3 Server with Terminal Services, a.k.a., InFusion View Server) and display its graphics on the same AW70 that many customers have today. Additionally, Cytrix has offered similar functionality for Solaris users. Re: OPC DA and InFusion View (InTouch plus some enhancements) InFusion View works with the I/A Series as follows: 1) Each WP directly connects to the control network and gets its data directly from the controller (as is the case with DM/FV; no gateways) 2) That there is a layer of software (a DAServer) between the OM and InFusion View that standardizes the data flow into InFusion apps. 3) Performance is good when used on a V8 system and we are working on enhancements to make it better with Nodebus data sources that are "across the ATS" from the operator console. OPC DA is not used to access I/A Series data sources in support of InFusion applications. OPC DA and a variety of other protocols could be used to feed InFusion View from other sources, however. Re: OPC UA We expect to support OPC UA at the appropriate time, but we have no OPC UA product announcements to make at this time. Re: At any rate, "Infusion" depicts a more connected company that looks like they are trying to consolidate their individual entities and assets under one architecture. Hopefully the marketing, sales, and purchasing groups of each company will consolidate so they will be working together instead of appearing like competitors. I especially notice that with Foxboro and Triconex. We deal with ESSCOR but haven't done anything with SimSci but I could imagine a possible competition between them. That isn't a healthy thing for customers to see. We have spent a significant amount of time and effort to unify IPS. A core part of the internal message or the last two years has been 1 company by 2006. I think you will see a closer alignment of the pieces of the organization today than you would have seen a year or two ago. As we go forward, that alignment from products through sales to implementation and services should become seamless. I welcome your questions and comments either on this forum or directly. Alex Johnson IPS System Architect Invensys Process Systems alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 713 329 8472 (office) -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tom.vandewater@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:31 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Next Generation Platform??? = Infusion ECS Infusion ECS is the big announcement that we have all been waiting for? In looking at the website it is still hard to tell if Wonderware is now the HMI for the "new" system. It does show InTouch connected as an OPC Client and mentions Legacy HMI systems, (but not Foxview by name). How about it Alex, is Foxview part of that "Legacy" HMI box? =20 http://www.infusionecs.com/images/InfusionAcess1_2j_large.jpg I'm guessing InTouch is still through the old OPC DA interface, as I don't know if OPC UA is even "real" yet. I don't see Intouch using OPC DA as a viable replacement for the "Legacy" Foxboro HMI but there are opportunities once Wonderware moves to OPC UA which I believe will support web services. If there is anyone from Invensys/Wonderware that has the knowledge and insight to give us an in-depth explanation of their direction? At any rate, "Infusion" depicts a more connected company that looks like they are trying to consolidate their individual entities and assets under one architecture. Hopefully the marketing, sales, and purchasing groups of each company will consolidate so they will be working together instead of appearing like competitors. I especially notice that with Foxboro and Triconex. We deal with ESSCOR but haven't done anything with SimSci but I could imagine a possible competition between them. That isn't a healthy thing for customers to see. In the short term, I didn't see anything that rocks the world of the Foxboro IA users, but you be the judge of that by looking at: http://www.infusionecs.com/ Cheers, Tom VandeWater -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Johnson, Theodore (Ted) S Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:31 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Next Generation Platform??? =3D Infusion ECS www.infusionecs.com =20 =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. 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