[ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

  • From: "Taylor, George" <gtaylor@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:42:42 -0600

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-------------------------------------------------------Actually I used my 
TI99-4A via a 300 baud accustic coupler......


George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:09 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

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-------------------------------------------------------BITnet - Wasn't
that what Timex Sinclairs were networked together with?
Or was that Commodore 64s? 

-----Original Message-----
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Taylor, George
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:57
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

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-------------------------------------------------------SPF record, ok,
I'll give you that.  The SPF record is specifically designed to validate
the source IP of an email sender, however, it wasn't proposed until like
late 2004 and I don't even know if it's IETF standard yet....probably is
by now.  But look at your statement that "their ISP doesn't provide such
a simple service" regarding at PTR record which has been standard since
BITnet. These rinky dink ISPs are more likely to adhere to a 20 year old
standard than one only a couple years old.  Either your ISP provides the
service your paying for or you find another one, either you pass a
reverse DNS lookup or you don't send me email.

Trivia for the masses:  What did BITnet stand for?  And it's no fair
googling it, pull from the grey matter.

George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:39 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

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-------------------------------------------------------Unfortunately,
that analogy is flawed.
RDNS isn't "validating the origin"; it's "validating the PTR records in
the netblock owner's DNS server" and nothing else.  There are quite a
few folks that can't get a valid PTR record built because their ISP
doesn't provide such a simple service.
The closest thing to your analogy is an SPF TXT record.  This uses the
DNS associated with the sending mail domain to determine the validity of
the sending host.

Also keep in mind that unless you're the netblock owner (<giggle> as if
any SBS deployment could be), you can build PTR records in your public
DNS all day long and not affect remote PTR lookups in any way
whatsoever.

The only functional way to work around this is via smarthost that
actually does have a valid PTR record.

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   Jim Harrison
   MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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-----Original Message-----
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Taylor, George
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 08:05
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

Hmmm, should I dance around like a god?  or do they even dance?  :-)
 
I have to disagree with you John.  It is standard practice to require a
valid RDNS lookup in order to except a piece of mail.  Basically all you
are doing is verifying that the sender is in fact who they say they are,
or should I say the server connecting to your server is who it is
advertising itself as.  As you say, take a look at the real world:
 
A guy walks into your mailroom wearing a purple shirt with a unibomber
emblem and says "Take this package, it's from UPS..."  What's your mail
clerk going to say?  "I'll take it because I don't care who you are, I
just take all packages addressed to me..."?  I hope not, that's how
things get blown up, that's how your email system will get blown up with
viruses, spam, threats, etc...  If you cannot verify the origin of a
piece of mail and you except it anyways, you put yourself at risk, a
conscience email administrator is not going to allow that.
 
 
Just my .02
 
George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.
 

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From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:07 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config



Andrew, please tell me you are not actually considering doing this.

 

Yes, the big want-to-be Internet God's such as America Off Line
block/refuse on no PTR, but that is not practical in the real world as
the rest of us know it. Besides, I think America Off Line is just trying
to get on Dan Quails' good side, if he has one.

 

John T

eServices For You

 

"Seek, and ye shall find!"

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:05 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: IMF config

 

Is there anyway to get IMF to drop emails that fail reverse lookup?

 

Thanks

Andrew

 


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