[etni] Re: Project Problems
- From: sarag <sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: nirenber@xxxxxxxxxxxx, etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:58:34 +0200
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I think (only my opinion) your kids are doing the project too fast. We are
planning 1.5-2 months of work - they only work in class. Did the groups that
are finished spend a lot of time at home working (summarizing, writing and
so on...?)
I remember now that your project has a lot of viewing vidios - could you
somehow get that done in school ?(work in a class with a tv? Have them take
turns seeing their films?)
Also - how long a e the presentations? Last year I did 10 presentations in 2
lessons - each one was about 5 min.
In any case - I think we are all learning from these projects and every year
they wil get better and easier.
Happy Hanukka -
sara g
sara g in israel
sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nirenber@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rlewen@xxxxxxxxx>; <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: [etni] Re: Project Problems
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> Several people replied that they don't allow groupwork. However, if you
> only allow the students to work individually or in pairs, how long does it
> take you to finish the oral presentations? I spent 9 lessons on project
> work. I have students who, at the end of 9 lessons, still have no
material
> (that I've seen). On the other hand, I have a group that is completely
> finished, apart from typing up their work. Anyway, assuming that you can
do
> no more than 4 oral presentations in a lesson, it would take me 10 lessons
> to finish the oral presentations if all of my students did their work
> individually (there are 37 in the class). That's two full weeks. Add
that
> to the two weeks of project work and we're talking about at least a month
of
> only projects. This seems like a bit much to me. And how on earth do you
> keep an entire class interested in oral presentations for two whole
weeks??
>
> Also, how long does it take you to assess almost 40 projects? Certainly,
it
> would take me a lot longer to assess 40 projects than it does to grade 40
> exams, yet I was under the impression that project work wasn't supposed to
> be more work for the teacher...
>
> I'm frustrated and glad that I have next week off.
>
> Bari
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Rivka Lewenstein
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 17:45
> > To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [etni] Project Problems
> >
> >
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> > Hi Bari,
> >
> > Many of the problems that you are facing are ones which I've
> > anticipated as happening to any teacher, and the solutions I came
> > up with may not help you at this point, and may not leave
> > everyone feeling thrilled, but I'll mention them anyway.
> >
> > 1. Don't allow groupwork - only individuals or pairs.
>
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