[etni] Re: Fw: yearly grades
- From: sara g <saragabai@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ETNI list <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 22:00:33 +0300
I'm sorry but I don't agree with Batya.
The grade we give used to be called the "magen" and it was defined
as something that will "protect" a student who doesn't feel well on the day
of the bagrut, but did study all year.
but then the name was changed to "tziun shnati" and the explanation i heard
from the MOE was that the student's final grade should be 50% - the bagrut
test grade, and 50% - what s/he did in class - participation, homework,
projects etc. And this can either help or harm the student. If this is
explained to the students and parents over and over, starting in the 10th
grade, even if they argue that the tziyun shanti is lower than what they
will get in the test, they know what your answer is going to be.
sara g
2010/5/22 Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sbshai - sbshai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: yearly grades
>
>
> Hi Michele,
> In answer to your question about what would be accomplished by eliminating
> the school grade for the Bagrut, I'd like to first explain why many
> teachers
> find this to be a useless ordeal:
>
> First, it's an ordeal because we take great pains to be both considerate
> and
> fair -- i.e., we want to (realistically) reward students who have attended
> class (both physically and mentally!), prepared their assignments and
> generally shown an effort to progress in their language proficiency. At
> least, this is what we understand the purpose of the tziun shnati to be; it
> should serve as a magen for deserving students, especially those who never
> quite become 'mavens' at Bagrut stategy (all their practice
> notwithstanding).
>
> The useless part figures in this way: No matter how hard we work at these
> grades, we are inevitably deprived of a sense of satisfaction: Principals
> may be disappointed that our averages aren't higher, parents are upset and
> students claim we've ruined their lives -- regardless of how generous we've
> actually been!
> The sad result is that the best hagglers may win in the end simply by
> wearing us down, which is clearly an unjust situation. Why should we be
> subjected to such demeaning behavior?
>
> To top all this, there is no standardization throughout the country in the
> way these grades are given. For example, in some schools English speakers
> automatically get 100%, even if this is unwarranted according to their work
> record.
> There are many schools who start with a bonus of 10 points for their
> students, also without regard for any meaningful criteria.
>
> The bottom line is this -- and it's reiterated by principals, parents and
> students: If the student can achieve a higher score on his Bagrut than
> we've
> given as a yearly grade (which can indeed happen as there's bound to be any
> easy enough exam among all the ones he's allowed to take, and he receives
> THAT mark -- not an average of all his tests), then we do look stingy!
>
> So when all is said and done -- regardless of what we're told -- the yearly
> grade is not what it's cracked up to be! It's just an unnecessary hassle
> for us, and the way the system works now, our students get enough chances
> to
> succeed on the Bagrut. (Hence, our ordeal is rather useless.)
>
> I believe I've represented the position of many teachers, and I hope this
> answers your question.
>
> Shavua tov,
> Batya
>
>
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