[etni] Fw: Re: gmulim
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From: "Maxine" <maxine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gmulim
The problem as I see it is less with the gmulim and more with the number of
hours that 3,4 and 5 pointers receive.
Ever since budget cuts started at our school, our 4 pointers have been
receiving fewer hours than the five pointers according to the rule which
states that a 3 pointer is supposed to receive 9 hours during his/her three
years of high school, a 4 pointer 12
and a five pointer 15.
(This rule, however, does not seem to apply to mathematics at our school,
which is assumed to be harder than English and
therefore require more hours. Math at our school gets WAY beyond the teken.
Is this true of other schools too? ) This is plainly ridiculous.
The weaker pupils need MORE hours, not FEWER! And now with the projects,
it's well nigh impossible for a teacher getting four hours a week in Yud
Aleph to get anything done. As far as gmulim go, I agree with Bari.
Teaching a five-point class properly demands a great deal of extra work at
home grading essays and all kinds of other written work plus the fact that
five-point classes at our school are MUCH larger (to the tune of 35-40) than
the 4 point ones which are usually half that size. So there is some
rationale behind the present gmul system.
By the way, at our school for years we have been splitting the gmulim
between Yud Aleph and Yud Bet: the Yud Aleph
teachers get 1 1/2 hours and the Yud Bet teachers get 2 hours (for five
point classes).
This has been rather helpful in staving off the fights-to-the-death among
teachers for Yud Bet classes, and is also fairer,
since Yud Aleph teachers are preparing for Bagrut just like the Yud Bet
teachers are. I mention this as a possible solution to the problems of
gmulim with the NBA.
Regards, Maxine Tsvaigrach
Bari wrote:
> Teaching the stronger kids might demand less work, but grading their
> tests, papers, etc. demands more. My 5-pointers write more
> compositions (and I have to pay attention to more things in their
> compositions) and take longer tests than the 3 and 4-pointers.
> I can't speak for others, but I can tell you that personally, I
> dedicate more out-of-class time to my 5-pointers than I do
> to my 3-pointers and even to my 4-pointers. Also my
> 3-point classes are almost always smaller than my 5-point
> classes.
Ruth wrote:
> I would like to ask my esteemed colleagues a question about the gmulim
> system. Isn't it strange that up till now teachers of 5 pointers have
> received a higher gmul than those of the lower levels? do they do
> more work?
> I would put it to you that teaching the lesser abled kids demands far
> more work on the part of the teacher.For my Mabar kids who
> will only take a 3 point level I put in far more work and effort
> than for my 5 point Yudbet. Any takers??
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