1. Like John Laverdier mentioned, I do not give references to recruiters - only to clients if they request. 2. I have used Dice, Career Builder & Monster as secondary sources, but I have never gotten an interview using these sites & submitting resumes. However, recruiters will see your resume if you post it to these sites and you will probably get some calls/emails. I have always gotten jobs through recruiters. I have mainly used CX Design as I have worked exclusively in the Phoenix metro area the past 15 years and also know Chris & Doug. However, my current job I got through CPI. The way the market is, you definitely want to take the initiative contacting people, though you probably will get some recruiters contacting you. 3. I am seeing rates between Nu0-25 to Nu0-10, which is what I am currently working at. I'm sure there are some jobs at Nu0 or higher for the right niche. 4. Compared to late 2008/early 2009, I am definitely seeing more jobs - through this email list and also recruiter contacts. It's not the late 90's, but it seems like there is a some upswing from the bottom. 5. Currently working in Govt/Defense industry doing FPGA design & verification. 6. NA since I've been working in Govt/Defense the past 15 months where there are few if any H1-Bs. As for going perm - it's something I considered 18 months ago, when my contract suddenly ended and it took me a couple of months to find something. I was looking at perm or contract, depending what popped up first. As it turned out, the 1st job that I found was contract, but I was prepared to go perm after 15 years. Tom Ohe ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Havlovick To: ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:39 AM Subject: [ee_shoppahs] Questions/Opinions I would love to have your opinions on the following. Ya'lls help is greatly appreciated. 1. Recruiters are constantly asking for references before I get the phone screen. Specifically they ask for managers names. Do you give out these names, managers/references prior to any interview (phone screen, etc.) at all? 2. What job sites are ya'll using to find gigs? Or do you wait to have the agencies that you know call you? My assignment is ending and it is very bleak out there. 3. I am seeing most rates on the design side in the nu-30 range, most lower. Verification seems to be higher in some cases, but even that, except CA, is not much better. Can anyone tell me what rates thay have been seeing? 4. Is anyone seeing a pick up in jobs out there, or is it time to walk away? Texas is dead in more ways than I care to think about so it would be moving away to go perm. Opinions? 5. Are most of you working in defense related industries or commercial (semi-conductor) side? 6. Are most of us working with H1-B's (Texas Instruments and AMD) not in defense, or do you see a lessening in that regards? Thanks lady, and gents. The reason I ask is my daughter is nearing college and I have to start thinking what is best for her over all. If I have to move and go perm in order to make a living to keep her head afloat then I must leave. I hate to say it but I have missed allot of her growing up. (My choice...) But I wonder if the contract world as it "seems" to be turning into was all worth it. I did enjoy the highs, been doing this for 18 years, but this is the second low (2001 the first) and even then it wasn't as bad as I see this. (H1-Bs were not as prevalent in 2001.) So I guess this is a lament in one way, but also would love to hear ya'lls opinions on what you think the future will hold? Gary has said that he thinks the verification side will be lucrative, yet after expenses, if I travel, my net is less than perm guys. Thats because the rates are so damn low. For some contractors I have worked along side of, this bunch are some of the best. I worked with both Gerald and Everett, and, well enough said, I am sorry for their passing. Both were too young. I have followed John L. and actually took over his code and he mine on 2 jobs. Not sure where Dan Dauer is these days, or Alex Troicky (did I spell that right). Did 3 jobs under Gary's company and 2 guys on the list at SMSC out on Long Island. Forgive me but I forgot both their names. (John followed me after that one too, make that 3.) Sellas out in Boston, no idea if he is still on the list, Woody out in Wisconsin, and Ed, now thats bad I cant remember his last name or if he is still on the list. Gosh I must be getting old, Ed out of Boston who lives in New Hampshire, cheech. So, I have worked with allot of you and some are no longer on the list. So, I would like to know what ya'll think? I do not wish this to be a lament or poor me crap, but I am wondering if it is not time to walk away? Perm is there, but most managers (27 of them to date, are such idiots, except for 2 notable exceptions.) so I wonder if I would survive perm? Your thoughts are very welcome, thanks in advance for your comments. Thanks Ron