Thanks, Michael. I had tried the box style once or twice and now I know how to make it bettter. Deb B. ________________________________ From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Borkon Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:59 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: question about boxes No, you don't have to enter the characters one at a time. The box style puts down a row of sevens, then a row of letter g's right below it. You are left to supply the characters for the sides of the box. If you are in a braille screen, you get a line of forty characters. If you are in print mode, you get 65 characters. If your box is at the top of a page, the page number indicators will shorten the width of the top border of the box. If you are farther down the page, you have the full width of the page to work with. The box-h1 style puts your cursor in the center and keeps the row of whatever characters you type centered as you go. It goes out to position 35 before starting a new, centered line. Have fun. Michael -----Original Message----- From: "Barnes, Deb" Sent: Feb 11, 2010 8:18 AM To: "duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" Subject: [duxuser] Re: question about boxes <u1:shapedefaults spidmax="1026" u2:ext="edit"></u1:shapedefaults> <u3:shapelayout u4:ext="edit"> <u3:idmap u4:ext="edit" data="1"></u3:idmap> </u3:shapelayout> So do you have to do the characters one at a time or is there a way you can make the characters repeat. I know there's a box under styles but seems like I remember that when I tried to use it I had a problem; can't remember as it's been a long time back. Deb B. ________________________________ From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Borkon Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:47 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: question about boxes For the sides of boxes, I use a letter l (1 2 3) for the left side and the underline character (4 5 6) for the right side of the box. It looks strange in a print screen but comes out OK in braille if you switch Grade Zero (no translate) or are already in a braille screen. You can also fiddle with the corners by finding a letter or symbol which connects with your top row and bottom row characters for a more seamless effect. Michael Oakland Unified School District Oakland, CA At 06:51 AM 2/10/2010, Foxworth,Ann (DARS) wrote: Is there a way to surround text with a box that has sides as well as top and bottom? ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT DARS/DBS CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER 4800 N LAMAR AUSTIN, TX 78756 PH: 512-377-0471 KF6CRZ Amateur Radio .............................."The Play's the Thing..." The Play's the Thing... KF6CRZ * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to . You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *