[duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

  • From: George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:52:20 +0000

Hi Eileen,

I’m afraid that editing the DXB (Braille) file would be pretty hard work.

However, you could still modify the DXP (Print) file.

I’d suggest making a copy first, and use the copy to try out the following.

Alt + F3 will toggle Codes on and off.  I suspect that if you look for the 
compinline or compdisplay. Codes, you will find that they are in pairs where 
the closing or ending code is prefixed with a forward slash. (The screen shot 
below shows this visually.)

You can delete either the opening or closing, and it will delete the pair, so 
to speak.

However, be aware that it is entirely possible that by doing this, which will 
stop it using computer braille, it may take up more or less space.

George.

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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: 17 November 2014 13:40
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

Hi George,

Thanks for your help.  I also do the bulk of formatting in Word before bringing 
anything into DBT.  There is very little I actually do in DBT, except for 
generating the table of contents, and re-setting some page numbering issues.

I don’t know how this particular section in my .doc got the Currier font 
applied to it, but there it was.

I was hoping there was a DBT code or style I could apply to the one section in 
the DBX file where this problem is and set the Braille back to English Braille. 
 Thus, keeping  the page sequence in order with what I had already printed out.

Ah well, I guess I’ll have to re-translate and re-generate my TOC.

Thanks again.

Eileen


From: George Bell<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:15 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

Hi Eileen,

Sorry I didn’t get back to you yesterday, being on GMT and a Sunday.

If you must work with the already imported file, I suspect the only way to get 
rid of the Computer Braille will be to search for the Codes and Replace with 
nothing.  You can do this in DBT so long as you remember to check the “Replace 
Stylename” box in the Search and Replace process.  (F6 to trigger S & R)

I’m afraid my own experience is such that I do my utmost to get a good, well 
formatted Word file first.

As regards the “comp” Styles.  “compdisplay.” Is a paragraph Style where a 
whole paragraph is to be in Computer Braille.  “compinline” is a character 
Style where things line e-mail and web addresses are contained within the 
sentence or paragraph with otherwise is in normal Grade 1 or 2 braille.

However, nowadays, if the e-mail or web address in Word has the Hyperlink Style 
applied, which is often done automatically in Word, DBT will import it 
correctly, even though it may be in a Courier font and you have ignored this 
font feature in DBT’s Word importer.

And just to keep 100% up to date, Unified English Braille (UEB) does not treat 
web and e-mail addresses any differently from normal braille.

Hope this helps.

George.

From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: 16 November 2014 14:06
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

George and All:

I checked my Word .Doc and yes, you knew it. somehow in the text of my document 
the Currier New font was set in the area of text that was printing strangely.  
Now, I have one other question, I’m leary to re-translate the .doc into another 
.dBX file, because I’m not relishing having to do all the other formatting and 
re-generating the TOC.  Is there a way to correct the problem in the already 
translated file that will keep my page numbering as is?  Thanks again.

Eileen


From: Eileen Scrivani<mailto:etscrivani@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:50 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

Hi George,

I know for a fact that I have in various places in my .doc “Currier New” set as 
the font for HTTP addresses, but then I after those web addresses set the font 
back to Callibrie Light.  I was always under the impression that to get a web 
address to print correctly in DBT I had to in Word give the address the Currier 
New font.  I will look again at the area where the last set of font changes are 
and try to determine what the problem is.  Can you explain to me what the 
comp-display is or does?  Or at least a brief overview if its too detailed to 
explain?

Thanks for your help.

Eileen


From: George Bell<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 5:53 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Comp Display Question.

Hi Eileen,

Tricky to be exact without seeing the original Word file.

However my initial suspicion is that there may be a courier font used in some 
places in the Word file, and DBT’s Global:  Word importer may be set to 
automatically apply computer braille.

Take a look at DBT’s Global, Word Importer and if the first item, “Transcribe 
Courier to CBC” is checked, uncheck it and re-import the Word file.

George.

From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: 15 November 2014 22:28
To: Duxbury User List
Subject: [duxuser] Comp Display Question.

Hi All,

I have a Word .doc file that I brought into DBT 11.2 It’s a large file and I am 
not sure about something Jaws is reading to me on the DBT screen that makes me 
think I’m going to get a lot of unwanted and weird underline characters if I 
finish printing the second volume of my Braille file.  When I checked the 
reveal codes in DBT I am seeing/hearing Jaws say “comp-display.”  What is the 
comp-display and what will it do?  Should I delete it out?  I’m trying to avoid 
having to re-format  this file since I have a table of contents that I don’t 
want to throw out of sequence.  Any ideas on how to fix it?

I think it may also have at this point switched to computer Braille since 
numbers do not have the # (dots 3-4-5-6) before numbers.  Thanks.

Eileen

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