[duxhelp] Re: printing or embossing to a file!!

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:01:07 -0400

Jack,

It still sounds as though you are looking for a type of "Save As", albeit
one that we don't support directly.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jack Maartman
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:00 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: printing or embossing to a file!!

Hi Peter:

I regularly save files as .brfs in the local  encoding. This of course works
very well.  If I have a generic embosser set up, and have  the settings I
want for my file in the advanced dialog, I am not sure that this will save
without <lfs>  Joe suggested that I could eliminate formfeeds in the global
search and replace dialog, however I am not sure, that the same would hold
true for linefeeds.  In my notetaker, where I often edit files, <lfs> are an
encumbrance. We usually think of stand alone <crs> as mac format.  in
NFBTrans, this is done transparently. I realize I am using DBT in an
unorthodox manner, and that using the print to file, will create the disk
file with these specs.

Jack

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:19 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: printing or embossing to a file!!


> Jack,
>
> The process that you went through is more complicated than it needs to be,
> even as things now stand.  In particular, it is possible to print to a
file
> by setting your DBT embosser configuration to print directly to the file,
> rather than through a printer driver.  (However, this is not possible in a
> few cases, where DBT actually requires a printer driver.)
>
> And, yes, we are working to make this simpler for somebody who has no
> embosser.  But, in the end, that problem cannot be solved perfectly.  A
true
> "print-to-file" will be different for different models of embosser.  If
you
> have not embosser, and do not specify a particular embosser model, then
DBT
> really cannot know what you want done.
>
> Chances are that you want to create a ".brf" file, which is essentially
the
> same as a "print to file" for a Generic embosser.  You can achieve this
most
> simply by selecting "Save As" in the File menu.  Be sure to change the
file
> type to "Formatted Braille".  Note, however, that DBT in fact offers you
two
> choices.  The first choice encodes using the North American ASCII to which
> you are well accustomed.  The other choice will encode your file using the
> same set of symbols as is used on-screen, which is controlled through
> Global, Internationalization.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:59 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] printing or embossing to a file!!
>
> Hi all:
>
> I am wondering if anyone has been using this feature. It certainly has an
> intrinsic value, but the process is inordinately complex, and I am
wondering
> if this is something we can address by the time 10.5 hits the shelves.
>
> I couldn't have achieved it without some expert help.  The current
procedure
> would appear to be as follows.
>
> Owning neither printer nor embosser, I had to configure some windows
printer
> or other, directing it to print to file, I think I found a generic one.
>
> I then had to set up an embosser and give it a name.  This also turns out
to
> be the name of the file I wish to print to.  With this embosser
highlighted
> I then send text to it in the usual way.  Being somewhat of a
megalomaniac,
> I sent a very large file to the print-to-file,  this took a while, and of
> course, there was no prompt for job completion.  The other problem is the
> obvious.  The file bares the name of the default configuration, and I
would
> have to rename it.  I was hoping to find a dialogue somewhere that would
> prompt me for a filename, and perhaps some completion message.  The old
dos
> command-line utilities, including Duxbury's transf or tranxf give one such
a
> facility, and allow one to know how many pages are printed.  Another
issue,
> is whether such a file could include embosser specific codes.  Ultimately
it
> might be worthwhile down the road to have something, that in a personal
> communication George has called PBF, a portable braille format which would
> mean that a file could be generated with enough information in it to
emboss
> too no matter what embosser.  But I jump ahead of myself, here.  As I want
> my file to end with <crs., without <lfs> and no form feeds, at the moment,
> it is expedient to take a .brf file, and do these deletions in a standard
> text editor. At the moment, for me this means a shell out to dos, with an
> external dos screen reader.
>
> Any feedback will be valuable, and I won't weep to much if it doesn't make
> it into the next release.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jack
>
>
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