Bit off topic for Beta list, Dave, but I'll simply say that you are looking at the wrong equipment, and/or have been given some rotten advice about moving the sensors. Go for Bowe cutters. George. > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Durber > Sent: 03 June 2005 22:24 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: insert/overwrite keyboard modes > > Hello George: > > Pat's forms cutter has a bar between the tractor rollers that > has a micro-switch on it, that lifts up when the end of the > last sheet in a box of paper passes, thus stopping the > forms-cutting process. > > Most of the form cutters and bursters on the market use a > light detection system. so, you have a light on one half of > the tractor feeder and a light detector on the other half and > the paper slides through between them. The forms-cutting > process continues as long as the light is not detected by the > light detector. The other point to mention, is that most of > these light detection systems tend to be built into the right > hand tractor and because the manufacturers of these forms > cutting and bursting machines do not make provision for the > placement of either the light or the light detector in the > left hand tractor feeder, there is no possibility of changing > the configuration. > > The problem arises when you are using paper that has been > pre-punched down one side with wholes for a binder to be inserted. > > So, let's say that you have embossed a box of a thousand > sheets of paper and you now want to forms cut, or burst them apart. > > You would think that you would put the pin-feed wholes of the > last sheet of the box of paper on the pins of the tractor > feeders with the binding wholes on the left side, would't > you. But, when you do this, the file ends up being collated > backwards. So, in order to collate the file the right way, > you have to take the top sheet of the top of the pile and > place it on the table and repeat the process until the order > of the pages run in ascending order. > > Now, if you were able to put the last sheet of paper on the > tractor feeders with the binding wholes on the right side > instead, the sheets of paper would be stacked and collated in > the correct order. However, when you try to do this, the > light flashes through the passing binding wholes and is > therefore detected by the light detector. The forms cutter > or burster will either stop immediately or, it will finish > forms cutting or bursting the first sheet and will then stop > because the light has been detected by the light detector. > > In summing up, by including a function that would emboss the > file from back-to-front, the file would be collated in the > right order when the stack of paper is either forms cut or > burst when the paper is put onto the tractor feeders with the > binding wholes on the left hand side. > > Sincerely: > > Dave Durber > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:15:39 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hi Dave, > > > >Re your comment:- > > > >> the ability to emboss files from back-to-front to take > into account > >> those people who use forms cutters and bursters, would be > some of the > >> basic functions that must > >be > >> included in the new program. > > > >People also need to learn how to use their forms cutters and > bursters > >properly. > > > >Can you imagine Pat next door trying to turn one of his 3 foot high > >bins of output upside down? I think not! > > > >George. > >* * * > >* This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > >* To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > >* unsubscribe > >* as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > >* subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other > subscription > >* options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive > >* is also located there. > >* Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > >* * * > > * * * > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive > * is also located there. > * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > * * * > * * * * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *