[duxhelp] Strange file containing brackets

  • From: "David Spybey" <dspybey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:05:50 +0100

Peter

Most of the material that I prepare starts off as a print file for our
partially sighted pupils and it is usually in large print and bold. I
sometimes forget unbold the whole document before translating it hence
the bold version of the file I got the strange results with. As a rule I
would expect all the bold and other unnecessary emphasis marking to be
removed as it is not helpful to the Braille reader.
In the file I sent I can see that the capital A is in italics but I
would still not expect to get what is happening but rather
7.,a7

Whilst I might prefer it to have no italic sign at all I would not
expect DBT to understand my preference if I am perverse enough to ask it
to translate a file that I have provided with italics in it!

There is clearly something peculiar about the files I sent but I cannot
see what it is. 

David Spybey


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
Sent: 08 May 2006 19:36
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents

David,

Thanks for sending the .tex files (off-list).  As you mentioned, these
aren't really necessary to my analysis, because the problem shows up
also
(or perhaps exclusively) when importing from Word.

I'm now puzzled about what you want in the translation in this case.
You
mention that you would expect (A) to be: 7;,a7

Does that mean that you expect emphasis markings to be ignored in this
case?

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of David Spybey
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:34 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents

Peter

The file that caused the problem is attached. However I need to amend
what I
have said slightly.

I used Word2Tex, as I usually do, to change the file into a .tex file
that
SN will read. I did not check the SN file before using DBT and got the
result I mentioned. Looking more closely at the WORD original the A was
italic not the closing bracket. In SN this came out as the opening
bracket
in text the A and the closing bracket in Math and hence the result I got
in
DBT. I should have spotted this fact so apologies for giving a false
impression of the problem.
I was going into SN because of all the mathematics that was in the WORD
file
in MathType and the route I follow gets that into reasonable braille
mathematics. However, if you ignore the mathematics issues and just got
straight into DBT from the files I have attached the The results of
going
straight into DBT 

The version with (A) in bold gives 

7..,a.'.17.'

And the version witgh (A) in non bold gives 

.7.,a.17.'

Whereas I would expect (A) to be

7;,a7

as happens in other files. So there must be something rather peculiar
about
the two WORD files that I have attached. I have looked at them but
cannot
see what would cause such peculiar results.

David





-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
Sent: 04 May 2006 16:56
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents

David,

Do you have a sample file in the format from which you started (e.g.
Word,

Scientific Notebook, text, or HTML)?

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----

From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On

Behalf Of David Spybey

Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 3:02 AM

To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents

Peter

It is strange how mistakes show up errors!

I have just had

(A)

translated as

7,a>

rather than 7,a7

I could not understand why until I realised that the closing bracket was
in

italics by mistake. However I am not sure why DBT translated this as it
did.

David Spybey

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