[duxhelp] Re: HELP files

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:07:42 +0100

Darn it, Peter!  There goes our private beer fund!  (Smile)

Will this command also write protect the file in the same
way as release Templates?

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
Sullivan
Sent: 27 March 2006 15:22
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files

George,

The "stripping" option is available to all, but
undocumented.

dbtw /RemovePageInfo <templatefilename>

Will strip out printer and embosser setup information.

We didn't include that in the command-line summary because I
felt it would be confusing to people to even try to explain
what it means.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George
Bell
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:27 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files

Hi Jack,

Peter and Joe will correct me I am sure, but to all intents
and purposes any Template which has "- basic" after the
name, such as "Danish - basic", is simply a basic Template,
but pointing to the appropriate Language Translation Table.

If you want more information about the Language Translation
Tables, these are defined in much more detail within the
Language Translation Tables Help Topic.

Where a Template does NOT have "- basic" appended, such as
"Irish" for example, any refinements will normally be found
by looking at the "initial"
style for that Template.  This "initial" Style embraces the
whole document and sets up defaults for every document using
that Template, hence you will not see any Codes within the
document itself.

The whole Templates issue has been very much a moving feast
of late, especially since all the "- basic" Templates have
only recently been added, plus a few more which have been
supplied from local sources, "Irish" being just one.  

Consequently this section of Help does still require some
additional explanatory work before release.

I should just re-itterate what Peter says, in so much as NO
embosser or paper size information is attached to a Duxbury
"Release" Template.  

And before you ask (smile), I should also expand on this.

If you CREATE a new Template locally, then it WILL contain
embosser and form size information.  This is intentional
design, since the vast majority of users will design a
Template for their own use where they actually WANT this
information.

However, in cases where a Template is designed for
distribution with the original software, Irish being a
classic case in point, Duxbury use a very special in-house
process to strip out the superfluous embosser information.
After all, there is no point in supplying production release
DBTs with a Template set up for an E.T. embosser when the
user actually has an Index.

And to qualify this further, please do not expect to be able
to bombard Duxbury with all manner of Templates for
"stripping" unless you are either a very large multi-user
customer, or have a few shillings in your pocket to pay for
the service.

That said, perhaps in a future version of DBT, we might see
an option to allow this, but certainly not in the current
iteration.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
Maartman
Sent: 27 March 2006 03:00
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files

It's a good idea all the same, especially if it is one one
knows little about. This is the first pre-release with a
large number of templates, which I am sure will be sorted
out before release.

Jack

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files


> Jack,
>
> Our templates never encode paper size.  Templates that the
end user
> generates generally will.
>
> Yes, there are other anomolies; and these should be
documented.  In many
> cases, you can get a good idea of what they should be by
looking at the
> language notes in the online help.  But I understand
that's not really the
> same thing.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:22 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
> Hi George:
>
> Thanks.  I still find the array of templates somewhat
bewildering.  Other
> than a default translation table, if there are any
anomalies,b let's say
in
> Poland the paper size is different it might be helpful to
add this to the
> help on templates.
>
> Fight the good fight
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Bell <mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:13 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> Your first request should be easy to do, at least in Word
2003
> format.  However Duxbury have the final say in what is
released generally.
>
> The second is partly described in Templates, Default
Templates.
> This section does need expanding in the light of all the
additional
> Templates that have been added.  (Mostly a default format)
>
> Meantime, if you look at the "initial" Style (where one
exists) you
> will see changes to the default.  I need to confirm with
Joe/Peter, but I
> have a feeling the default for Templates generally
speaking is American
> Literary.
>
> George.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
Maartman
> Sent: 25 March 2006 21:22
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
>
> Hi George:
>
> On my wish-list.
>
> Everything in an exportable format, the complete system in
a series
> of .doc, .txt  or .dxp--take your pick.
>
> An outline of each template, or a down and dirty way to
find out
> what styles are incorporated therein.
>
> Not asking for much, zI know.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren Figueiredo <mailto:warrenfigueiredo@xxxxxxx>
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:03 AM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
> George,
> You already know what I want (and I know that it won't be
done for 
> this release).
> I want to be able to pull up the code list (F5) and hit f1
and get 
> clear and concise help on the code that is
highlighted.
> Warren
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George
Bell
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:54 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] HELP files
>
>
> I may be about to open the flood gates, or perhaps a mere
can of worms 
> here.
>
> As we get closer to release, we need to get the Help files
into shape.
>
> Are there any topics which you feel are inadequately
explained, or 
> missing altogether?
>
> George Bell.
>
>
>
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