[duxhelp] Re: HELP files

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:39:45 -0800

Hi George:

I'm impressed. This, or much of it could be the text for the help on
templates.  Just out of curiosity, why does their need to be a template for
Gaelic, apart from it's default translation table. I am thinking, albeit
eroneously that Irish Braille is virtually the same as British or Welsh.

Thanks

Jack


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:27 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files


> Hi Jack,
>
> Peter and Joe will correct me I am sure, but to all intents
> and purposes any Template which has "- basic" after the
> name, such as "Danish - basic", is simply a basic Template,
> but pointing to the appropriate Language Translation Table.
>
> If you want more information about the Language Translation
> Tables, these are defined in much more detail within the
> Language Translation Tables Help Topic.
>
> Where a Template does NOT have "- basic" appended, such as
> "Irish" for example, any refinements will normally be found
> by looking at the "initial" style for that Template.  This
> "initial" Style embraces the whole document and sets up
> defaults for every document using that Template, hence you
> will not see any Codes within the document itself.
>
> The whole Templates issue has been very much a moving feast
> of late, especially since all the "- basic" Templates have
> only recently been added, plus a few more which have been
> supplied from local sources, "Irish" being just one.
>
> Consequently this section of Help does still require some
> additional explanatory work before release.
>
> I should just re-itterate what Peter says, in so much as NO
> embosser or paper size information is attached to a Duxbury
> "Release" Template.
>
> And before you ask (smile), I should also expand on this.
>
> If you CREATE a new Template locally, then it WILL contain
> embosser and form size information.  This is intentional
> design, since the vast majority of users will design a
> Template for their own use where they actually WANT this
> information.
>
> However, in cases where a Template is designed for
> distribution with the original software, Irish being a
> classic case in point, Duxbury use a very special in-house
> process to strip out the superfluous embosser information.
> After all, there is no point in supplying production release
> DBTs with a Template set up for an E.T. embosser when the
> user actually has an Index.
>
> And to qualify this further, please do not expect to be able
> to bombard Duxbury with all manner of Templates for
> "stripping" unless you are either a very large multi-user
> customer, or have a few shillings in your pocket to pay for
> the service.
>
> That said, perhaps in a future version of DBT, we might see
> an option to allow this, but certainly not in the current
> iteration.
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
> Maartman
> Sent: 27 March 2006 03:00
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
> It's a good idea all the same, especially if it is one one
> knows little about. This is the first pre-release with a
> large number of templates, which I am sure will be sorted
> out before release.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:24 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
>
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > Our templates never encode paper size.  Templates that the
> end user
> > generates generally will.
> >
> > Yes, there are other anomolies; and these should be
> documented.  In many
> > cases, you can get a good idea of what they should be by
> looking at the
> > language notes in the online help.  But I understand
> that's not really the
> > same thing.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:22 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
> >
> > Hi George:
> >
> > Thanks.  I still find the array of templates somewhat
> bewildering.  Other
> > than a default translation table, if there are any
> anomalies,b let's say
> in
> > Poland the paper size is different it might be helpful to
> add this to the
> > help on templates.
> >
> > Fight the good fight
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: George Bell <mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:13 PM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
> >
> > Hi Jack,
> >
> > Your first request should be easy to do, at least in Word
> 2003
> > format.  However Duxbury have the final say in what is
> released generally.
> >
> > The second is partly described in Templates, Default
> Templates.
> > This section does need expanding in the light of all the
> additional
> > Templates that have been added.  (Mostly a default format)
> >
> > Meantime, if you look at the "initial" Style (where one
> exists) you
> > will see changes to the default.  I need to confirm with
> Joe/Peter, but I
> > have a feeling the default for Templates generally
> speaking is American
> > Literary.
> >
> > George.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
> Maartman
> > Sent: 25 March 2006 21:22
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
> >
> >
> > Hi George:
> >
> > On my wish-list.
> >
> > Everything in an exportable format, the complete system in
> a series
> > of .doc, .txt  or .dxp--take your pick.
> >
> > An outline of each template, or a down and dirty way to
> find out
> > what styles are incorporated therein.
> >
> > Not asking for much, zI know.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Warren Figueiredo <mailto:warrenfigueiredo@xxxxxxx>
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:03 AM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: HELP files
> >
> > George,
> > You already know what I want (and I know that it won't be
> > done for this release).
> > I want to be able to pull up the code list (F5) and hit f1
> > and get clear and concise help on the code that is
> highlighted.
> > Warren
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George
> Bell
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:54 AM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] HELP files
> >
> >
> > I may be about to open the flood gates, or perhaps a
> > mere can of worms here.
> >
> > As we get closer to release, we need to get the Help
> > files into shape.
> >
> > Are there any topics which you feel are inadequately
> > explained, or missing altogether?
> >
> > George Bell.
> >
> >
> >
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