Hi Joanie, I'm just up as far as your message below, so have not seen any later responses. However, I just want to say that I basically agree with you here. George. -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs Sent: 31 March 2006 21:29 To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Hi Peter. I'm sorry I've been among the silent majority. In part I've been silent because I've been otherwise occupied. And in part my silence is the result of trying to process what you propose. I'm having a dense day, apparently. :) So I'm going to think out loud and use specific values for characters per line to help me. I am one of those people who finds it more logical to set up multiple (but virtual) embossers, rather than accomplish this through templates. So, let's say I have two embossers set up: "Index Narrow" - 32 characters per line "Index Wide" - 40 characters per line If I were given a ready-to-emboss document formatted for wide paper, I would open that document, go to Document: Embosser Setup, and select Index Wide. If instead I were given a document formatted for narrow paper, I'd choose Index Narrow. If that document were formatted for only 30 characters per line, I would want 30 characters to stick (and be displayed) even though I just selected an embosser which normally uses 32 characters. If I decided in my infinite wisdom that 32 characters per line should be used, I would change the value from 30 to 32. In that instance, 32 would stick (assuming I saved my document). Now let's say I receive a document formatted for 33 characters per line. If I open it and then choose Index Narrow in Document: Embosser Setup, I would like to have a dialog box appear stating that the document's characters per line exceeds the selected embosser's characters per line and asking if I would like to apply my settings, keep the existing settings, or choose another embosser. At that point, I might switch to Index Wide in which case the 33 characters would be preserved; i.e. the switch to Index Wide would not cause 40 characters to be automatically applied. In terms of your proposal: 1. If you stop recording embosser setup information in the templates or make it merely an option, it will have no impact on how I do things as far as I can tell. On the other hand, for those people out there who do use templates to store different embosser settings, this change might be unexpected and/or lead to confusion. 2. If the document settings stick as I describe above, I wouldn't need the additional dialog controls to choose the target embosser. If the document settings are not going to stick, then being able to choose a different embosser upon import isn't going to work for me either -- I think. If I import a document with 30 characters per line, choosing Index Narrow through your new control in the Import Filter/Template dialog, and it applies the embosser's sticky setting of 32 as I believe you're suggesting, then it's overriding the document's settings. Maybe ready-to-emboss documents should just be given to me as brf files instead. :) I'm not sure if I contributed to the discussion and/or answered your questions, or just wasted precious time that you can never get back. But at least you cannot accuse me of being silent. :) Take care. Joanie -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:28 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Tesfaye, I suppose that what I proposed won't help you. At the same time, I don't think that it would interfere with your workflow either. DBT 10.6 for you would work pretty much as DBT 10.5, but with an added control in each of three dialogs, each of which you could ignore. The question then is would anybody else be helped? I think that the answer is yes, so the silence of the rest of the group is puzzling to me. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:15 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Hello all, I would prefer to leave "wide paper" embosser as default. Even you emboss a narrow paper document, text would emboss only between the setup parameters leaving the extra space on wider paper blank. If one chooses to emboss on a narrow paper, what is needed is to change the paper it self from wide to small so that "sticky document" embosses accordingly. When I want emboss a document on 11 by 8.5 size paper, I just physically change the paper by leaving "wide paper" embosser as a default. That has been the case with 10.5 and it works just fine. I hope that helps. Regards, Tesfaye * * * * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. 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