[dungeoncrawl] Re: My Characters
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:38:10 -0400
Oh, I see. Now I understand. :) That is interesting. I'd say you
get a pushy, free-spirited death freak. No wonder the poor girl is all
screwed up. :)
jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I see how confusing I can be. :) I was
> saying that since Ancalagon has
> necromancy, Ambrosia has independence,
> and Magnus has ambition, what happens
> when you mix all three in a stew?
>
> >
> > I have no problem with Dennis as
> a sun god. It certainly does fit
> > with him always being awake.
> > I have no problem with her
> getting ambition, although I was kind of
> > hoping for it for Magnus. I see it
> as being one of the driving forces
> > of his life, although I suppose you
> could say that of a lot of
> > characters. But I thought you wished
> to place Mileena with Ancalagon.
> > I still see her as necromancy and
> death, with Amrikol ruling over them
> > once they pass through her hands.
> > I like the idea of Ambrosia being
> against slavers. But Mileena
> > can't be the god of independence and
> oppose Ambrosia in that regard, can
> > she?
> >
> > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > I see what you mean about Dennis and
> > > Zolkiir - I keep seeing Zolkiir as a
> > > god of magic or something, and
> Dennis
> > > as oghma. Instead of knowledge, how
> > > about we make him a sun god? If we
> > > stick with the "constantly awake"
> idea,
> > > and associate him more with
> > > civilization and culture, then
> > > knowledge is easier to separate.
> > >
> > > As for Mileena, let's look at it a
> > > different way. Since Ancalagon is
> more
> > > suited to necromancy anyway, and
> > > Mileena isn't necessarily a death
> > > goddess, can we focus on her unique
> > > relationship between several gods?
> > > She's Magnus's daughter, Ambrosia's
> > > daughter, and Ancalagon's foster
> > > daughter. That's
> > > ambition/independence/necromancy. I
> > > personally believe she'd make a
> really
> > > cool goddess, but any ideas?
> > >
> > > One suggestion is to expand on an
> idea
> > > for Ambrosia that i didn't
> mention. I
> > > think it would be cool if she
> > > originated a prestige class of
> female
> > > slaver hunters. Maybe Mileena could
> > > oppose her somehow?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree that the characters
> > > involved get first crack at
> > > everything. Anyone
> > > > we would bring in gets the crumbs.
> > > Once again, it only makes sense. We
> > > should
> > > > only be bringing other characters
> in
> > > once we figure out the people that
> went
> > > on
> > > > the mission, and we see if we have
> > > holes. I think we should nail down
> who
> > > wants
> > > > to be a god from the main group,
> then
> > > nail down their portfolios. From
> there,
> > > > we can see if we need others.
> > > > And yes, we will have multiple
> > > characters that want the same
> > > portfolio, but
> > > > I think we can find ones that fit
> for
> > > all of the ones that went along, at
> > > least.
> > > >
> > > > I think Dennis should be a
> major
> > > power, just because he had the
> tooth.
> > > But
> > > > I love your description of him!
> It's
> > > great! However, Zolkiir would like
> the
> > > > knowledge portfolio. Any chance
> of
> > > that?
> > > > Shawn Barrick and I had
> spoken of
> > > Ancalagon before, and he's not sure
> he
> > > > would want to be the God of Death.
> > > He believes Ancalagon is more
> > > interested in
> > > > playing and experimenting with
> people
> > > than he is killing them. Something
> to
> > > > think about. I would actually
> love
> > > to see the Death Portfolio go to
> someone
> > > > that doesn't want it. What if
> > > someone decides, for example, that
> > > Magnus should
> > > > be the God of Death, because he
> > > killed so many people? (Please,
> please
> > > don't do
> > > > this.) That's going to affect the
> > > deity he becomes. Could be
> interesting.
> > > > Mileena will be the hardest to
> > > do, since she doesn't have a lot of
> > > history
> > > > with the group. I don't know
> about
> > > temptation. It doesn't quite seem
> to
> > > fit.
> > > > Hmmm. She is a toughie.
> > > > I like Ambrosia, but I would
> > > rather not bring any deities from
> other
> > > systems
> > > > over if we can help it. It's
> natural
> > > Ambrosia might want to allow
> Sharess,
> > > but
> > > > I would prefer we didn't. I think
> > > foreign gods trying to muscle their
> way
> > > in
> > > > should happen, but should be the
> > > focus of plots in the future.
> > > > Your description of Ilusdris
> > > gives me more hope for him as a
> > > demipower. You
> > > > may be able to sway me on this
> one.
> > > > Zolkiir does NOT want to be
> god
> > > of magic. I said a lot about him
> in my
> > > > e-mail yesterday. Let me say that
> > > Zolkiir is not as interested in
> magic.
> > > It's
> > > > a means to an end to him at this
> > > time. Remember, he has traveled the
> > > planes and
> > > > flown in an X-Wing. Knowledge in
> > > general is more important to him,
> as are
> > > > inventions and technology.
> > > > I wouldn't set Talosaard's
> > > portfolio up as you did, because it
> > > doesn't fit a
> > > > CG person. I would go along the
> > > lines of protection.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jim and Karen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are my thoughts on at
> least my
> > > own characters, and perhaps some
> NPCs.
> > > > > We're quickly going to run into
> > > plenty of situations where more
> than one
> > > > > player has legitimately good
> ideas
> > > that don't work well together,
> though -
> > > I
> > > > > think voting will ultimately
> help a
> > > great deal. Maybe we should take
> the
> > > > > "low hanging fruit" - stuff like
> > > Dennis, or maybe characters like
> Faceus
> > > and
> > > > > Nelik - and agree on what their
> > > domains will be early on. This will
> > > let us
> > > > > haggle over the ones that
> remain.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, Ancalagon would
> make a
> > > great death god - but there may be
> good
> > > > > reasons for another character to
> > > take the same role. My only
> > > recommendation
> > > > > is that we favor characters who
> > > were involved in one way or another
> > > with the
> > > > > quest before going to characters
> > > who weren't - this may mean that
> > > uninvolved
> > > > > characters are more likely to be
> > > demipowers than others. Give this a
> > > quick
> > > > > read - am I on track?
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S.: I want to apologize if my
> > > emails came across as harsh or "poo-
> > > pooing"
> > > > > other people's ideas. I was
> > > working like crazy, and trying to
> > > participate
> > > > > in this neat conversation - I
> > > reread my emails, and they did seem
> > > more blunt
> > > > > than I realized. Sorry about
> that!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis: NG, intermediate power
> > > (maybe greater, but not
> necessarily):
> > > god of
> > > > > knowledge, history, literature,
> the
> > > arts, and culture. Patron of
> bards. I
> > > > > see him having more power than
> he
> > > ever admits or displays - for one
> > > thing, I
> > > > > think it would be neat if he can
> > > never sleep (for if he does, the
> Tooth
> > > of
> > > > > Dendar will be unprotected,
> leaving
> > > it vulnerable to evil). He would
> look
> > > > > young and charismatic, but he
> would
> > > forever have very tired and somewhat
> > > > > troubled eyes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Escrima: N, goddess of winter,
> > > loneliness, and secrets. Patron of
> > > loners
> > > > > and bounty hunters.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ancalagon: NE, greater power
> (?).
> > > god of death and the underdark.
> Ruler
> > > of
> > > > > the world below (in a benign
> way -
> > > more like Hel than Loki. Amrikol
> would
> > > > > represent wanton, malicious
> evil).
> > > > >
> > > > > Mileena: CN, lesser power.
> > > Goddess of necromancy, (what she
> wanted
> > > all
> > > > > along), temptation, and
> deception.
> > > (sort of a mess. ideas here?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ambrosia: CG, (intermediate?
> > > lesser?) power. Goddess of freedom,
> > > > > independence, romance, passion,
> and
> > > creativity. Patroness of festhalls.
> > > > > Hopes that Sharess will be
> > > permitted to function as a
> demipower of
> > > pleasure
> > > > > and lust (under her). This may
> > > sound weird - you'd think she'd want
> > > this
> > > > > for herself - but she'd campaign
> > > for Shelensia to function as her
> > > superior -
> > > > > the goddess of leadership,
> > > fairness, love, and beauty. On one
> > > condition,
> > > > > though - she'd have to expand
> her
> > > interest (and persona) beyond the
> drow
> > > to
> > > > > all races. Love has no color.
> > > > >
> > > > > Amrikol: God of destruction,
> > > tyranny, and, conquest. You know,
> bad
> > > stuff
> > > > > that hurts people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Talon: God of murder,
> assassins,
> > > poison (of course - what did you
> think?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Iludriss: Demipower of madness,
> > > despair, and the fog of war (maybe,
> > > maybe
> > > > > not - he might just be a divine
> > > agent). I figure if the orc gods
> can
> > > exist,
> > > > > so can this wacko.
> > > > >
> > > > > Celane: N. Lesser(?) Power of
> > > Divination Magic, Portals, Guards,
> and
> > > Wards
> > > > > (although Zolkiir should have
> first
> > > dibs on arcane magic type stuff.
> By
> > > > > the way, now that I think about
> it,
> > > what about Zolkiir as a god of
> magic?).
> > > > >
> > > > > Nibrodius: CN. God of natural
> > > disasters - fires, floods, etc.
> God of
> > > > > misfortune.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marcus Drake: NE. God of
> > > cowardice, betrayal, blind loyalty.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Forester: Not a god; an
> > > immortal servant and spokesperson
> for
> > > Amrikol.
> > > > >
> > > > > Talosaard: CG. Lesser power
> of
> > > duty, loyalty, sacrifice, and
> humility.
> > > > > Patron of bodyguards. *** Major
> > > concern: does CG really fit this
> > > portfolio?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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