Hi All
Just a bit of trivial information - Girls could marry at 12yrs and boys at 14.
Allen was 100% correct till after 1899. Malcolm also gave some insight.
Now for the Marriage Licence - Have you tried looking for the Marriage Bond
Papers that go with this and sometimes Allegation Papers. For South Yorkshire
and all counties south of this you need to look at the Faculty Office and the
Vicar General under the Province of Canterbury.
For North Yorkshire the Faulty Office and Vicar General under the Province of
Yorkshire records.
A great little book written in 1991 by J S W Gibson (3rd Ed) is called Bishops'
Transcripts and Marriage Licences, Bonds and Allegations - A Guide to their
Locations and Indexes.
There are several other places to look but these are the most fruitful.
For the Marriage Licences of several of our family I found 2 or 3 extra pieces
of paper, one the application, two the bondsman (best man normally) and
sometimes three a record of why they wanted a special licence.
Hope this helps
Gillian
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When you got married it had to be by the law of the land to have legitimate
heirs and the marriage to have legal standing.
You could get married after Banns being called on 3 Sundays in church and
usually put up in a notice somewhere.
You could also get a licence to marry, sometimes from the civil authorities and
sometimes from a Bishop Or other empowered person in the church denomination
you were to be married in. This was so you didn't have to wait The 3 Sundays to
call banns or so you could marry "privately" without your name going up on the
notice board Or Banns being called in Church. The civil authorities would
licence the Priests etc of the churches to make the marriages They carried out
legal and so they could also give a licence to circumvent the Banns process.
Civil celebrants and religious ministers were/are all licenced by the
Colony/State in those days.
Most states had different marriage laws to England. Scotland has a different
legal system to England but its marriages Legal ones , were recognised in
England
This is from Vic BDM site now
Marriages can be performed by a registered civil marriage celebrant or an
authorised minister of religion.
You can find the register of civil marriage celebrants and religious ministers
(External link) at the Federal Attorney-General's Department.
In Victoria, the Victorian Marriage Registry offers civil marriage services.
Authorised registrars in some regional courts can also offer civil marriage
services. Contact your local court for further details.
One of my wife's rellies Joseph Withers got into a spot of bother with the
authorities in Colonial WA for bending the rules a bit.
Although he said he was doing the correct thing.
Mal
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Subject: [dps-chat] What is a marriage BY SPECIAL LICENSE ???
G'day CATHY & MARG, our resident specialists for matters ecclesiastical ...
Troving through the Bendigo Advertiser between 1860 and 1890 I've come across
some wonderful treasures pertaining to matters HELLIER, but would like some
explanation for the following:
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Bendigo Advertiser (Vic. : 1855 - 1918), Monday 6 November 1865, page 2
MARRIAGE.
On the 4th inst., by special license, at the Church of England, by the Rev Mr
Croxton, Mr Thomas Hellier, of Bristol, to Ellen, only daughter of Mr John
O'Connor, of London.
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I wonder if either of you gals (or others among the general ALL) could expand
on the meaning of a special license ... was it a mixed religious wedding OR was
it a spin-off denomination that needed the official stamp from the CofE, or
something quite different?
Cheers and thanks in anticipation, ROB!
rnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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