Hi Viv.
How interesting - Is this a possibility ?
1939 Register 4 Carr Street, Bradford CB, Yorkshire. Schedule 174
1. HART William DOB 24 Sep 1905 Linoleum
& Carpet Salesman Married NOTE – Police War Reserve 2/17 B…(may be
Bradford)
2. HART Grace B DOB 20 Nov 1904 Unpaid
domestic duties Married
3. Closed entry
The birth date fits with the census & birth registration. But wife’s name is
not Florence.
The marriage could be Grace McDowall, Bradford Dec 1928
Christine
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Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
Just thinking now, Allan Hart (aka William Allan Wright Hart) would probably
have married his wife Florence under the name William, not Allan.
I’ll check the freebmd link that you’ve given me, Maree.
Thanks so much,
Viv
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I found these marriages for an Allan Hart on
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Surname
First name(s)
Spouse
District
Vol
Page
_____
Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
_____
Benefield
Agnes
Wakeling
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=157869929:3981&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Romford
4a
562 <javascript:gopage(1928,1,2,'4a','562',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=157869929:3981&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=157869929:3981&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Curtis
Marjorie
Hart
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=157883955:9102&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Romford
4a
562 <javascript:gopage(1928,1,2,'4a','562',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=157883955:9102&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=157883955:9102&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Hart
Allan S
Curtis
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=157900489:1667&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Romford
4a
562 <javascript:gopage(1928,1,2,'4a','562',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=157900489:1667&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=157900489:1667&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Wakeling
John
Benefield
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=157948862:3476&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Romford
4a
562 <javascript:gopage(1928,1,2,'4a','562',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=157948862:3476&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=157948862:3476&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Surname
First name(s)
Spouse
District
Vol
Page
_____
Marriages Jun 1932 (>99%)
_____
Brewer
Jessie
Hart
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=165445953:0281&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Sheffield
9c
1015 <javascript:gopage(1932,2,2,'9c','1015',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=165445953:0281&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=165445953:0281&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Fretwell
Marjorie
Garner
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=165475630:5890&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Sheffield
9c
1015 <javascript:gopage(1932,2,2,'9c','1015',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=165475630:5890&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=165475630:5890&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Garner
Algernon R
Fretwell
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=165476870:4279&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Sheffield
9c
1015 <javascript:gopage(1932,2,2,'9c','1015',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=165476870:4279&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=165476870:4279&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
HART
Allan M
BREWER
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=165486650:2730&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Sheffield
9c
1015 <javascript:gopage(1932,2,2,'9c','1015',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=165486650:2730&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=165486650:2730&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Surname
First name(s)
Spouse
District
Vol
Page
_____
Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%)
_____
GEE
John
Stevenson
Burnley
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171688346:2061&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
8e
424 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,2,'8e','424',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171688346:2061&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171688346:2061&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Hart
Allan
Wilkinson
Burnley
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171700148:9643&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
8e
424 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,2,'8e','424',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171700148:9643&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171700148:9643&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Stevenson
Evelyn
Gee
Burnley
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171782234:9960&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
8e
424 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,2,'8e','424',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171782234:9960&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171782234:9960&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Wilkinson
Jessie
Hart
Burnley
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171803654:7547&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
8e
424 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,2,'8e','424',0)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171803654:7547&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171803654:7547&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Births Dec 1935 (>99%)
_____
Hart
Arthur E
Collins
Daventry
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171416398:5656&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
3b
91 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,0,'3b','91',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171416398:5656&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171416398:5656&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
_____
Births Mar 1936 (>99%)
_____
HART
Arthur C
Eastmond
Weymouth
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171870754:1152&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
5a
378 <javascript:gopage(1936,1,0,'5a','378',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171870754:1152&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171870754:1152&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
HART
Arthur W
Butler
Romford
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=171870755:1318&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
4a
642 <javascript:gopage(1936,1,0,'4a','642',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=171870755:1318&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=171870755:1318&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
_____
Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
_____
HART
Arthur R
Gillham
Sheppey
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=173264697:8508&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
2a
1707 <javascript:gopage(1936,4,0,'2a','1707',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=173264697:8508&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=173264697:8508&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
_____
Births Mar 1937 (>99%)
_____
HART
Arthur W H
Hems
Stepney
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=173718836:8018&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
1c
339 <javascript:gopage(1937,1,0,'1c','339',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=173718836:8018&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=173718836:8018&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
Possible son?
Surname
First name(s)
Mother/Spouse/DoB
District
Vol
Page
_____
Births Sep 1974 (>99%)
_____
HART
ALLAN DAVID
WRIGHT
ROTHERHAM
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/districts.pl?r=250772297:1048&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
3
1053 <javascript:gopage(1974,3,0,'3','1053',1)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?r=250772297:1048&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
<javascript:golink(%22/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=250772297:1048&d=bmd_1479781955%22)>
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[mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vivienne Garforth
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 4:05 PM
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Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
Ahh yes of course.........I have more on them. Sorry Bev.
Hannah Hart, born 1887 (no date), Bilsdale, Yorkshire to William Hart and
Isabella Medd.
Hannah married Robert Johnson in Apr-Jun qtr of 1911 in Stokesley, Yorkshire,
having already given birth to the twins of which only Allan survived.
Apparently she hoped that Rob’t Johnson would adopt Allan but he didn’t accept
him into the family so the boy got palmed off onto his grandparents (Wm and
Isabella Hart).
Allan married ????? (her name would help) and they had only one child, Arthur
(presumably Hart but maybe Johnson). Arthur was born in 1936 maybe between
March and June? He seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth and my
neighbour, who lost her 84 yr old husband to cancer a month ago is starting to
wonder what happened to her cousin.
This is all the information that I have, I hope it helps.
Thanks so much for any help on Arthur.
Vivienne
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Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 3:53 PM
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Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
A bit more information would be helpful. Is there an approximate d.o.b/ p.o.b
for Hannah or a p.o.b for the twins?. Can find the Hart/Johnson marriage and
the birth of Ursula, but without more info re Alan can’t find him on the 1911
census
Regards, Bev
From: Vivienne Garforth
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 2:08 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [dps-chat] Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
I’ve just been having a wonderful conversation with my 80 year old neighbour.
Apparently, her grandmother (Hannah Hart) was engaged to marry the son of the
“Big House” when she got pregnant with twins but before they could marry, her
fiance got killed in a horse riding accident. Then one of the twin boys died at
birth, leaving only Allan or Alan to be brought up by his grandparents. His
mother Hannah eventually married a man called Robert Johnson in 1911 in
Stokeley, Yorkshire and had two daughters (Ursula and Sybil) but Mr Johnson
wouldn’t accept Allan/Alan who might have kept the surname Hart or may have
adopted the name Johnson – my neighbour seems to think he kept Hart. Allan was
born prior to 1911, obviously and went on to marry ???? and they had one son
called Arthur.
Arthur was born in April/May/June 1936 in England – Yorkshire, I think – so
would also be eighty if he was alive. My neighbour has tried to find out what
happened to her cousin Arthur.
Just thought someone might have time on their hands and be looking for a
mystery to solve?? Just wondering............
Vivienne