Thanks Christine,
How I wish I still had Findmypast and Ancestry but once my husband passed away,
they were luxuries I can’t afford. Thanks for looking though because it looks
as if Arthur or William Arthur had moved back into 12 Eleanor Road, Harrogate.
Doing some maths here – if he was 65+ in 2002-2014 then he could well be 80 in
2016. But if he had only lived there for 33 years, it sounds like he moved in
after 1961 when his father died or after his mother died??? Maybe he inherited
the property?
Looking good. I wonder if he is still there........what’s next? The phone book
perhaps? Need to do some more searching – wouldn’t it be nice to connect these
two old cousins after about 70 years?
Thanks,
Viv
From: dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Christine Cavanagh
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:54 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
Hi Viv,
Here is a better possibility – all from findmypast & FreeBDM -
1939 Register 12 Eleanor Road, Harrogate Schedule 122
HART Florence DOB 5 Jan 1903 married unpaid domestic duties
HART William A DOB 1 May 1936 under school age.
No other occupants.
BIRTH William A HART June 1936 Knaresbro’
(mother - Brambles)
MARRIAGE William HART & Florence BRAMBLES Dec 1931 Knaresbro’
(includes Harrogate)
UK Electoral Registers – 2002 -2014
William A HART age 65+ 12 Eleanor Road,
Harrogate Occupancy years -33
Christine Cavanagh
From: dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Vivienne Garforth
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 7:15 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
Just thinking now, Allan Hart (aka William Allan Wright Hart) would probably
have married his wife Florence under the name William, not Allan.
I’ll check the freebmd link that you’ve given me, Maree.
Thanks so much,
Viv
From: dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Maree Walker
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 6:36 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
I found these marriages for an Allan Hart on
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Surname
First name(s)
Spouse
District
Vol
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Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
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Benefield
Agnes
Wakeling
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4a
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Curtis
Marjorie
Hart
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Romford
4a
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Allan S
Curtis
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John
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4a
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First name(s)
Spouse
District
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Brewer
Jessie
Hart
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Sheffield
9c
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Marjorie
Garner
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Sheffield
9c
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Algernon R
Fretwell
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Sheffield
9c
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HART
Allan M
BREWER
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Sheffield
9c
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Surname
First name(s)
Spouse
District
Vol
Page
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Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%)
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GEE
John
Stevenson
Burnley
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8e
424 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,2,'8e','424',0)>
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Hart
Allan
Wilkinson
Burnley
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Evelyn
Gee
Burnley
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Jessie
Hart
Burnley
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Births Dec 1935 (>99%)
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Hart
Arthur E
Collins
Daventry
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3b
91 <javascript:gopage(1935,4,0,'3b','91',1)>
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Births Mar 1936 (>99%)
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HART
Arthur C
Eastmond
Weymouth
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5a
378 <javascript:gopage(1936,1,0,'5a','378',1)>
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HART
Arthur W
Butler
Romford
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4a
642 <javascript:gopage(1936,1,0,'4a','642',1)>
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Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
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HART
Arthur R
Gillham
Sheppey
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2a
1707 <javascript:gopage(1936,4,0,'2a','1707',1)>
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Births Mar 1937 (>99%)
_____
HART
Arthur W H
Hems
Stepney
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1c
339 <javascript:gopage(1937,1,0,'1c','339',1)>
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Possible son?
Surname
First name(s)
Mother/Spouse/DoB
District
Vol
Page
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Births Sep 1974 (>99%)
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HART
ALLAN DAVID
WRIGHT
ROTHERHAM
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3
1053 <javascript:gopage(1974,3,0,'3','1053',1)>
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From: dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Vivienne Garforth
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 4:05 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
Ahh yes of course.........I have more on them. Sorry Bev.
Hannah Hart, born 1887 (no date), Bilsdale, Yorkshire to William Hart and
Isabella Medd.
Hannah married Robert Johnson in Apr-Jun qtr of 1911 in Stokesley, Yorkshire,
having already given birth to the twins of which only Allan survived.
Apparently she hoped that Rob’t Johnson would adopt Allan but he didn’t accept
him into the family so the boy got palmed off onto his grandparents (Wm and
Isabella Hart).
Allan married ????? (her name would help) and they had only one child, Arthur
(presumably Hart but maybe Johnson). Arthur was born in 1936 maybe between
March and June? He seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth and my
neighbour, who lost her 84 yr old husband to cancer a month ago is starting to
wonder what happened to her cousin.
This is all the information that I have, I hope it helps.
Thanks so much for any help on Arthur.
Vivienne
From: dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dps-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Macbev
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 3:53 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Re: Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
A bit more information would be helpful. Is there an approximate d.o.b/ p.o.b
for Hannah or a p.o.b for the twins?. Can find the Hart/Johnson marriage and
the birth of Ursula, but without more info re Alan can’t find him on the 1911
census
Regards, Bev
From: Vivienne Garforth
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 2:08 PM
To: dps-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dps-chat] Can anyone help find Arthur Hart?
I’ve just been having a wonderful conversation with my 80 year old neighbour.
Apparently, her grandmother (Hannah Hart) was engaged to marry the son of the
“Big House” when she got pregnant with twins but before they could marry, her
fiance got killed in a horse riding accident. Then one of the twin boys died at
birth, leaving only Allan or Alan to be brought up by his grandparents. His
mother Hannah eventually married a man called Robert Johnson in 1911 in
Stokeley, Yorkshire and had two daughters (Ursula and Sybil) but Mr Johnson
wouldn’t accept Allan/Alan who might have kept the surname Hart or may have
adopted the name Johnson – my neighbour seems to think he kept Hart. Allan was
born prior to 1911, obviously and went on to marry ???? and they had one son
called Arthur.
Arthur was born in April/May/June 1936 in England – Yorkshire, I think – so
would also be eighty if he was alive. My neighbour has tried to find out what
happened to her cousin Arthur.
Just thought someone might have time on their hands and be looking for a
mystery to solve?? Just wondering............
Vivienne