[directmusic] Re: Q's

  • From: "Scott Morgan" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:55:05 -0800

Ciaran, the Mp3 codec is included in XP, I think it was in WinME too, but
I'm foggy on that.  Yup we sounded like two Twinkies :)

-Scott Morgan
http://Morganstudios.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ciaran Walsh" <ciaran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:47 AM
Subject: [directmusic] Re: Q's


>
> Scott's point about mp3 encoding stereo wavs is definitely a problem for
me.
> The way to get round it is to encode your wavs as mp3 in Sound Forge or
> whatever you use, saving not as an mp3 file but as an mp3 encoded wav
file.
> Then you can import your stereo mp3 compressed file into DMP and it should
> work.
>
> You can use Microsoft ADPCM of course, which should work for everyone, but
> it can be a bit crunchy sounding - depends a lot on the timbre of the
source
> sound I find.
>
> One thing I'd be interested to know in relation to Paul's questions is
> whether an mp3 codec is now installed as standard on current windows
> versions? I assume it must be in XP?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Stroud
> Sent: 29 January 2003 10:19
> To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [directmusic] Re: Q's
>
>
>
> Thanks Scott.
>
> So do you think it'll be best if I use Wavs only, or is there another way?
A
> compression that I can be sure all will have.
>
> Is it very unlikely someone will not have the mp3 codec on their machine?
>
> Can anyone think where my problem lays with encoding mp3?
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott Morgan
> > Sent: 29 January 2003 01:41
> > To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [directmusic] Re: Q's
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > DMDemo is completely safe.  It does not write or change anything on your
> > hard drive.  It just loads the content and does what the
> > interface tells it
> > to.
> >
> > If the mp3 codec is not on someone's system the mp3 will fail to play,
> > sorry.  I think there is a problem encoding stereo files to mp3
> > in DMP (like
> > you can't do it).  That may be your problem.
> >
> > Oh, if you only use an audiopath for one segment, its actually easiest
to
> > embed the audiopath in the segment.  If you only use one audiopath like
I
> > usually do its better to not reference it in the script at all.
> > If you are
> > using DMDemo you can make your audiopath the default audiopath using the
> > DMDemo.ini.  The reason this is better is because if you create it in
the
> > script the new audiopath is an additional audiopath besides the already
> > existing default audiopath created by DMDemo or whatever app you
> > are using.
> > If you are using multiple audiopaths then you should either embed them
in
> > your segments or create them in the script depending on how they are
used.
> >
> > I like to embed all of my content in the script to make things
> > cleaner.  You
> > would use references if you had multiple scripts and you wanted
> > the scripts
> > to be able to use the same files.  For instance in the project I
> > am working
> > on I have one DLS set and one audiopath that all the scripts use.  I
just
> > load different instruments in each script and I adjust the FX
paraemeters
> > using Param Ctrl tracks.
> >
> > The memory part depends on whether or not you tell the script to
download
> > all content when the scirpt loads (not whether its embedded or not).
There
> > is a check box on the property page for that.  If you uncheck it then
you
> > have the repsonsibilty of using the DownloadSoundData command to
> > load things
> > and using UnloadSoundData to unload things before the script gets
closed.
> > Unless you are ready for some serious technical problems, I recommend
you
> > leave the auto-loading on.  My current project uses dynamic loading and
it
> > had been a nightmare...its sure lets me use a lot more samples though.
> >
> > Streaming waves are also not affected by embed or not.
> >
> > -Scott Morgan
> > http://Morganstudios.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Stroud" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:25 AM
> > Subject: [directmusic] Re: Q's
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Leo.
> > >
> > > My main concern is with the compression, but this is just part of my
> > overall
> > > concern with distribution for potential clients i.e. DMDemo
> > "songs" on my
> > > showreel
> > >
> > > I want to reassure them that DMDemo will not tamper with any
> > system files
> > or
> > > folders.  Can I do this and use mp3 compression without fear of
> > the client
> > > not being able to play it due to a lack of the decoding codec?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leo Newman
> > > > Sent: 28 January 2003 16:45
> > > > To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [directmusic] Re: Q's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I only know about the second item.
> > > >
> > > > The advantage of setting a variable to an audiopath is gained
> > when you =
> > > > use
> > > > the audiopath multiple times.  If you do not use it multiple
> > times, you
> > =
> > > > are
> > > > better off just creating it in the function call.  Otherwise
> > you would =
> > > > have
> > > > the overhead of making the function call multiple times
> > instead of just
> > > > passing a variable that is already set.
> > > >
> > > > This is just a programming perspective.  I haven't done much with =
> > > > audiopaths
> > > > in VB.
> > > >
> > > > Leo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Stroud
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:37 AM
> > > > To: DirectMusic List
> > > > Subject: [directmusic] Q's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello people,
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple of questions if any of you have the time
> > > >
> > > > 1). How can I implement compression? Particularly mp3 and ogg vorbis
> > > >
> > > > I have Wavelab, but still can't encode to MP3 in DMP. I
> > thought that WL
> > > > would have installed the codecs. No? I think I found one line in the
=
> > > > help
> > > > file of DMP, but that wasn't particularly helpful, although I
> > now think
> > =
> > > > I
> > > > know why I can't encode - I just don't know how I can.
> > > >
> > > > I also need to be sure that the user will be able to play it - error
> > > > messages would look very bad to say the least.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2). Is there any advantage in setting a variable to an
> > audiopath, and =
> > > > then
> > > > using that variable to declare the path used in a .play method?
> > > >
> > > > i.e.
> > > >
> > > > Set oAudioPathVari =3D Audiopath1.create
> > > > segment1.play IsPrimary, oAudiopathVari
> > > >
> > > > as opposed to...
> > > >
> > > > segment1.play IsPrimary, Audiopath1.create
> > > >
> > > > 3). What scenarios would you embed components in a script and
> > when would
> > =
> > > > you
> > > > reference? Does embedded components get loaded into RAM when
> > the script
> > =
> > > > is
> > > > loaded? How does this affect wave streaming?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you to anyone that can help
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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