Easy mistake to make... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: metering discrepancies > > What happened is: I was recording an audio stream from the internet which > played through my jaws soundcard. I routed the jaws soundcard into the > sonar soundcard--so far so good. When testing the input level, I > mistakenly got the spike in level when jaws announced the meter level-not > the level of the streamed program. So, jaws level was around -5db, and > that's what I mistakenly read as the level for the stream. Fooled myself > pretty good with that one! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: metering discrepancies > > >> Try pushing the input level until it distorts, then back it off a little, >> and see what the post meter reading is! >> >> It might do the trick, possibly showing that Sonar isn't seeing the input >> properly? >> >> I dunno, might work... >> >> Alternatively, have you reset and refreshed the meters etc? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:39 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: metering discrepancies >> >> >>> that's what I did, I armed track, and read meter with f2 after first >>> resetting the meter with triple f2. it read approx -5 DB, then on >>> playback with track unarmed, meter read approx -17 db. I changed no >>> settings--I just loaded the normal template into a new session of sonar, >>> and began recording after checking input level. I haven't really given >>> much attention to this aspect of sonar(digital audio recording), and >>> I'll have to investigate it a little more with an eye towards this >>> problem. >>> >>> >>> . >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:11 AM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: metering discrepancies >>> >>> >>>> Phil! >>>> >>>> When looking at the input level, make sure the feedback you get from >>>> JAWS says, "input", and not "output"? >>>> >>>> I guess you know that you should take the meter level when the track is >>>> actually armed? >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:18 AM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: metering discrepancies >>>> >>>> >>>>> maybe you lowered the volume for that track. the meter shows the >>>>> output level not your wave file level. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:43 PM >>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] metering discrepancies >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> When I check meter levels with an audio track armed, then record on >>>>>> that track, and then check my levels on playback, there is a big >>>>>> discrepancy. For example, I had an input level of around -5 DB with >>>>>> an armed track, then on playback, the meters read around -17 DB. Why >>>>>> the big discrepancy? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this a sonar thing, or something to do with my hardware? 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