Here's how I do it. first, you need to setup some stuff. Go to global option and set the nudge to 1 tic. Also on editing tab, set the cross fade on overlapping. Press shift n and open up snap to grid dialog. Set the unit to 1 sample and check the 0 crossing box. Now, you need to remember exact beginning and end time of punch or distructive effect. Let's say you have a 8 bar song. You don't like bar 3 and 4, so you open up another track and record bar 3 and 4. Although you can do auto punch in the same track, but I like to record it on another track. It gives me more freedom. Anyways, you copy bar 3 and 4 to the original track and overwrite it. Then, there should be click between 2 and 3 and between 4 and 5. First, you select bar 3 and 4 and do a small nudge to the left. If you check selection time at this point, the beginning of the selection should be 1 tic moved to the left. Try to hear between bar 2 and 3. If there's still a click do another small nudge to left by pressing control insert number pad 1. Repeat until it disappears. Now, select from bar 5 to end and do small nudge to left until the click disappear. Problem with this though, if you do too many of small nudge, your track might sound off time, cause you're getting rid of tiny bits. If you do like 40 of them, you're getting rid of 40 tics. Oh yeah, also, set your tic time to 960 tics per quarter note, so you can do finer adjustment. Even with 960 tics per quarter, if you get rid of 40 tics, you can hear the off sync especially on percussion or drum trakcs. Hope it helps. If anyone has better way to remove clicks from edit, please share. Chi ----- Original Message ----- From: neville To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [ddots-l] cross fade Hey Ki, I just read your message about the question you had. I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question as I'm still teaching myself how to use sonar. I saw that you menssioned something about applying crossfades. I would really like to know how to do this. I know what your talking about when you said that you hear clicks in the audio when pasting. I don't have that problem when pasting, but I do have that problem when I'm punching in and when I'm applying efects distructivly. Lets say I want to do some pitch corection I hear a click at the beginning of my audio selection and also at the end. I got the impression that you new how to do a cross fade. Can you tell me how?