Phil wrote: The trim control which is on a audio track in the track view and concel view in Sonar is a pree affects gain and like the volume fader, is only used for tracking and not recording. Maybe this is one of those things where we yanks are divided from you brits by a common language. In my world, tracking and recording are the same. What do you mean? Kevin PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq