[ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't fall into my trap.
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:24:52 +0100
Hi Gordon,
Seems you missed the message I posted about "per
application" which I posted yesterday. I've copied it
below.
George.
Hi Gordon,
Here's your answer, and from a very highly respected
Microsoft Employee. In fact, what Mark doesn't know about
compilers, just isn't worth knowing. His full time job used
to be troubleshooting compilers for Microsoft covering the
whole of Europe and Africa.
George.
________________________________
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark
Long
Sent: 25 April 2007 10:57
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] Re: Vista - Application Memory Limit
The limitation is to do with the CPU address length which in
turn relates to the CPU bitness, not the OS.
Without hacking headers and forcing high loading of system
components, user mode apps are limited to 2GB on 32 bit (but
be impressed if you can get over 1.6 GB without a crash). On
64 bit, you are in the terrabyte range.
What problem are you trying to solve here please?
Thanks
Mark
________________________________
Subject: [program-l] Vista - Application Memory
Limit
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:01:24 +0100
From: george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Does anyone know what the memory limit is for
individual applications with Vista?
I believe the total limit for the 32 bit version is
4 GB, but have been asked is there's a limit for an
individual application.
Needless to say I've Googled and hunted the MS web
site, but can't seem to find the correct keywords to obtain
a result.
George W F Bell, Managing Director
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
76 Bunting Road Ind. Est.
NORTHAMPTON, NN2 6EE
Tel: +44 (0)160 479 2777
Fax: +44 (0)160 479 2726
e-mail: george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.techno-vision.co.uk
<http://www.techno-vision.co.uk/>
________________________________
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon
Kent
Sent: 25 April 2007 22:15
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't fall into my trap.
Yeah, well that didn't answer the per application question.
I have run up against the 2gb brick wall using sonar with a
lot of samples loaded. I have 3gb in my system, I eonder If
I should take one out for all the good it's doing.
Gord
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:56 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't fall into my
trap.
The overall figures are here, but I'll try and find
out what the application limit is.
http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.asp?qid=3743
George.
________________________________
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon
Kent
Sent: 25 April 2007 06:03
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't fall into my
trap.
Frankly I am getting disenchanted with m-audio ever
since they were bought out by avid. Unless somebody can
give me a compeling reason, I don't plan to move to vista
any time soon. Does the 32-bit version of vista still have
the 2gb memory limitation for any one application?
Gord
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike C <mailto:m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't fall
into my trap.
Hey george, sorry that things aren't going
well for you. I'm sure, that things will work themselves
out in the next couple of months. As for me, everythings
including all my music gear except the stupid M-audio
project mix, which M-audio has bluntly told me that they
don't know when there going to come up with th update.
However I think there just beeing plain old lazy, as they
stated on their web site that they have been working with
Microsoft and Vista for a year or so, I'm sure it doesn't
take a year to develope the drivers. Edirol, and Presonus,
and the audio card which Cake ships is having drivers for
Vista, even echo audio, and Tascam have developed or will be
releasing drivers by the end of the month.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:42
AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't
fall into my trap.
Hi Mike,
The driver isn't the problem. The
Motherboard and BIOS just will not support Vista - PERIOD.
Which is a decidedly stupid
statement, since I've been running Vista on it for over a
year.
It's an ATI Radeon Sapphire X1950
Pro (512MB), which not only requires an available 45 amps on
the 12 volt rail, but a connection to the Power supply also.
The only reason I got the stupid
thing was to produce better screen shots for these sighted
guys who want to look at pictures in the Help files I
author.
George.
________________________________
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike C
Sent: 24 April 2007 11:34
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: VISTA - Don't
fall into my trap.
George what Invidia card do you
have, I may be able to send you the correct driver.
I have the Invidia g force 7900
that was one of the things that
scared me at the begginning. Low and behold I was able to
find the driver manually at Invidia web site. My version
of the driver is as of March 2007.
While George is correct in saying
that buyers be ware, I have had very good luck in using
Vista thus far, and realizing that the auto feature doesn't
work under Vista, I think in some cases that's bettter in
that you could altimatly use the narrator to open up the CD
and run the settup of any software.
I use to find the stupid autorun
feature a pain in the you know what, as most of those
autorun screens were in accessible to blind users anyway.
take for instance Sonar.
I also love Vista in that when you
actually make a video card change, Jaws doesn't crap out and
give you a video intersept maniger, it actually still works.
when considering all the security
protection that Vista so far has to offer, I'm sticking to
it, and eventually I'm sure all the bugs will be worked out.
This business of going back to XP
doesn't interest me at all.
If you remember Xp went through the
same problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
<mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:58
AM
Subject: [ddots-l] VISTA - Don't
fall into my trap.
Cross posted, so apologies if you
see multiple copies.
Just in case anyone is thinking of
upgrading their system to VISTA, beware of making the same
mistake I have. (Even if, to you, it is a fairly new
system!!)
I'd been in the Vista Beta program
almost since day one. At that time my Fujitsu Pentium PIV,
2.66GHz was barely a year old, and one of their "current"
top end models.
All through the beta, and right up
to and including the current updated release, everything has
been fine with Vista Ultimate, except for the nVidea video
card. That was the one and only warning I got from even the
latest version of the Vista Upgrade Advisor.
And so I was delighted to get a gift
of a new ATI card, fully Vista compliant with a nice 512 MB
in it.
But oh dear! The system saw the new
card, but when the system re-booted, it died.
Having spent a major part of
yesterday trying to get this super new AGP card installed,
it turns out that the Fujitsu Siemens motherboard in my PC
does not officially support Vista. Consequently ATI dropped
the support case like a hot brick. Fujitsu themselves don't
want to know, as they say the Scenic Series was discontinued
before Vista was released to Joe Public.
Little wonder DELL are
re-introducing a range of systems with XP installed!
George Bell.
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