[ddots-l] Re: Selecting individual MIDI events for length adjustment

  • From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:21:56 -0500

MessageHoly Cow!  I actually understood most of that in one pass.  And, When 
that book comes out, I'd like a signed copy.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin L. Gibbs 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:03 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Selecting individual MIDI events for length adjustment


  Phil,
      While I hadn't considered that, the reason was because I was looking for 
a more efficient means of selecting single events or discontiguous ones, much 
like you would choose discontiguous files for copying and pasting in Windows 
Explorer with a CTRL Space bar.  The situation is somewhat complicated:
  1.  I'm studying a wide variety of subjects ranging from MIDI sequencing with 
VSL to orchestration and, I suppose, composition, with a guy who has my 
identical rig except that he's sighted.  
  2.  We each have multiple computers with Sonar and Giga and VSL.  The thing 
is that he was teaching me how to humanize my MIDI performances "THE HARD WAY," 
by altering the most minute details of each and every event in the sequence, 
including adding special expression and other controller events.  One is 
supposed to be able to do this stuff more efficiently using VSL's Performance 
Tool in the Giga version, or by using their new Vienna Instruments.  However, I 
wanted to learn the guts of really finely detailed sequencing by doing stuff 
literally by hand.  
      He was using the Process Length command to alter durations after we had 
put some tempo changes in the sequence.  I later changed these tempos after 
which some of the note releases sounded off.  Originally, I thought the notes 
were sounding slurred because the durations needed adjustment after I'd changed 
the tempos.    That wasn't the problem.  
      The fact was that we also had a special CC 18 message that altered ADSR 
in Giga.  AS it happened, certain values of this Controller 18 message were 
effective when paired with the tempos we had.  However, when I changed the 
tempo map, it turned out that the ADSR changes just sounded like badly slurred 
notes.  I wondered if there was something that the process length command did 
that was over and above simply changing the duration value in the event list.  
There wasn't.  The reason why these CC 18 messages failed to provide the 
desired effect when paired with alternate tempos was because, as you know,  
ADSR is a fixed  thing.  The fact was that the slurs sounded bad because the 
ADSR was wrong for notes progressing at the tempos I had set.  Follow?  I guess 
I'll just put that in my soon-to-be best seller, "Press the Reset Button, 
(volume 12, revised edition.)"  
  duh-------
  BTW this will be of interest to any of you who exchange cwp files with 
sighted colleagues who use alternate screen layouts.  If you open a file you've 
gotten from another Sonar user and it starts talking about how the inspector 
isn't displaying and successive F6s only appear to refresh the inspector, It's 
probably because the project work space is a fraction of what CT expects.  By 
going  to the window menu and choosing either cascade, tile in rows or tile in 
columns, you will cause the work space to expand to occupy the entire screen as 
we're accustomed to.  From there, it's a simple matter to do an F6 and refresh 
the screen so that all will be well.  

  Kevin
    -----Original Message-----
    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
    Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:29 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Selecting individual MIDI events for length 
adjustment


    K,
    You can use the Interpolate function (double shift F3).  This assumes there 
is some rhyme or reason to the notes you want to change, of course.  Example, 
if you want to change all notes in a given range like G#3 thru B4, or in a 
certain velocity range, or even duration ranges, or any combo thereof.  You 
probably already know this stuff, but there's a full lesson on the interpolate 
function in CT tutorial.  


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kevin L. Gibbs 
      To: ctbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Cc: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:06 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Selecting individual MIDI events for length adjustment


      I wan to select individual MIDI events and alter their lengths by using 
the length dialog under Process instead of altering their durations in the 
event list.  How can I select an individual note, or select discontiguous 
individual MIDI events in the event list view.  It doesn't seem to be possible. 
 

      K. 

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