[ddots-l] Re: FW: FW: Re: Repeating, the last question

  • From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealganna@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:53:26 +0200

Messagehi kevin and all:
Thanks allot

i finish writing my notes,

and i used the dc and ds, for repeating,

again many thanks for your considearations.

Cheers
Ramy Moustafa

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin Gibbs 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:38 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: FW: FW: Re: Repeating, the last question


  That isn't the way music is written.  He could use a first and second ending 
but you don't use a final bar the way you describe.  It's an inappropriate 
application of a print convention.  
      Feel free to skype me for clarification.
  Kevin
    -----Original Message-----
    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
    Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:57 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: FW: FW: Re: Repeating, the last question


    Kevin,

    I understood from Ramy that all he wanted was to repeat the last x bars of 
the song, right up to the final bar line. For that, he doesn't need any D.S. al 
Segno. All he needs is a right-facing repeat bar  at the point where he wants 
the repeat to begin. The final bar line fills the need for the left-facing 
repeat.

    Dave

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kevin Gibbs 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:06 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] FW: FW: Re: Repeating, the last question


      Dave and Rany,
          REad this carefullly so you can get it right.  
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jimmy Lockett [mailto:poppajol@xxxxxxxxx] 
      Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:29 PM
      To: Kevin Gibbs
      Subject: Re: FW: [ddots-l] Re: Repeating, the last question


      Kevin:

      I'm on my way to the gym but this is a quickie. You are partially correct 
in that Dave's answer is not right. There are two standard ways to do this. 
Using your method, at the measure where you want the person to start the repeat 
you would place a "sign" the little S with the line and 2 dots. Then, where you 
want them to go back you would write "D.S al Coda." The player goes back to the 
sign and plays along until your coda symbol from which  he/ she jumps to the 
next coda symbol. The other way, which I would probably lean toward, would be 
with 1st and 2nd ending symbols and they would usually be 2 measures, even 
though you could do it with one. The way you described it is also possible but 
you would have to write some directions along with your 1st Coda sign. You 
could write "2nd X" next to the Coda sign or something like that.

      Hope this helps and Happy New Year.

      Be Well,

      Jimmy 

      On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Jimmy,
               This answer doesn't sound right.  It came from a blind guy to a
        blind guy so I didn't trust it.  I would have done it differently.  
Assuming
        that the person was repeating a section once and that the last repeated 
bar
        was the last bar of the piece, I would have:
        1.  placed at least a repeat forward bar where the repeated section 
begins
        and a repeat end bar where it ends.  However, I would have put a coda 
mark
        one bar before the last bar of the repeated section and another coda 
sign in
        a "duplicate" last bar after the backward repeat sign.  That last bar 
would
        have the final bar on it.  Am I losing my mind?
        Best,
        Kevin

        -----Original Message-----
        From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
        Behalf Of Dave Carlson
        Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:01 AM
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Repeating, the last question


        Just put a repeat forward (double bar with right-facing double dots) at 
the
        beginning of the bar where you want the repeat to start. You don't need 
the
        other repeat at the end because the final double bar line implies that 
it is

        the other boundary of the repeat.

        Dave

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealganna@xxxxxxxxx>
        To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        Sent: January 02, 2009 7:01 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Repeating, the last question


        hi all:

        Using sibelius.
        if u please, now, with all your help, i can enter the ds, dc, etc, but 
am
        asking about, if i need to repeat a section in the piece, but this well 
be
        the last section, after it it well be the end, no more staves,

        What shall i write then?

        Thanks
        Cheers
        Ramy Moustafa

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