JSonar Development http://www.jantrid.net/jsonar_devel/ Note: Dancing Dots don't support these free scripts. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Smith" <ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5 > Where do you obtain that free script? > Thanks, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:30 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5 > > >> Hmm, good question. Not sure really. For example, CT handles affects >> dialog boxes such as the >> Cakewalk FX EQ, a bit better than the free scripts do. Meaning that all of >> the buttons and >> sliders are fully scripted for. On the other hand, the guys who write the >> free scripts are >> improving boxes like this all of the time so, I guess it could be a matter >> of time until dialog >> boxes such as this have been totally scripted. Also, the free scripts, tend >> to encourage the >> user to use keystrokes that are already built into Sonar, rather than >> implementing new keystrokes >> that are a feature of CT. I personally don't think that's a bad thing at all >> as I personally feel >> that it's better for the user to learn the host application, rather than >> learning CT which, is a >> bolted on to Sonar. I have taken this approach as most of my clients are >> sighted. Also, I >> personally like to be able to have the option to work without applications >> such as CT. This has >> enabled me to get into using Sonar 5 early on as CT isn't available for that >> yet. >> >> Having said all that, I am not knocking CT as there could be some people out >> there who would find >> exclusively using Sonar on it's own with free scripts, too much of a >> learning curve. CT comes >> with a ton of well written documentation which, if you don't have any >> working knowledge of the >> audio and MIDI environment, could be useful. Having said that, I haven't >> ever really need to or, >> used any of the tutorials that ship with CT as I find the Sonar help system, >> more than adequate >> for my needs. >> >> On the other hand, CT does seem to make the Sonar environment a bit more >> robust. Meaning that, >> if you click on something E.G, such as opening a softsynthe then, CT will do >> exactly what it is >> supposed to. Also, pressing function key F2 in order to read and reset >> record and playback >> metres, is far less clunky than the free scripts alt control and the letter >> M. >> >> my conclusion on this is that to go from Using CT to free scripts is >> probably less of a learning >> curve if you never used CT and Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. I am one such user who >> never did use CT >> with Cakewalk Pro Audio at all. I barely used Cakewalk Pro Audio at all and >> when I did, that was >> with free scripts that shipped with Jaws. I started using Sonar, long >> before any scripts were >> available, free or CT. >> >> On the other hand, I find some of the keyboard shortcuts that have been >> implemented in the free >> scripts, a bit more intuitive in the track view. For example, control, >> shift, and the letter f, >> will jump you to the affects column, Control shift and N, for the name >> column, control shift and >> V, for the volume column and control shift and P for the pan column. I >> personally find that way >> easier than having to try and remember how many times I need to press a >> keystroke in CT in order >> to jump to say, column 10 in the track view. >> >> Regards, Phil Muir >> >> P J Muir Productions >> www.philmuir.com/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:10 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5 >> >> >>> Having used both, Phil what can't you do with the free scripts that you can >>> do easier with CT? >>> And vice versa. >>> HF >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:19 AM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5 >>> >>> >>>> CT 4 doesn't work with Sonar 5. You will ether need to wait for CT for >>>> Sonar 5 to come out or, >>>> use the free Jaws scripts that are available. Note: Dancing Dots don't >>>> support the free >>>> scripts. Having said that, they do work quite well. >>>> >>>> Regards, Phil Muir >>>> >>>> P J Muir Productions >>>> www.philmuir.com/ >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David P Shortland" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:52 AM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] CT4 & Sonar 5 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Greetings from Down Under....:) >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone using CT4 with Sonar 5? >>>>> >>>>> CT4 and Sonar 4.03 are very happy together, just having a little trouble >>>>> when I start getting >>>>> a lot of trax (around 30 or so) with plugs in etc etc... I feel that JAWS >>>>> loses focus quite a >>>>> lot and cannot find name of trax or even locate trax themselves. >>>>> >>>>> I did read somewhere to locate a track by name , but could not find it on >>>>> reread of CT >>>>> Tutorial, perhaps someone could point me in the correct direction?....:) >>>>> >>>>> I do not wish to compromise my system if I install Sonar 5. >>>>> >>>>> With much thanx.... >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> (Still really really enjOying CT) ....:) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >>>>> Subject:- faq >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >>>> Subject:- faq >>>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >>> Subject:- faq >>> >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >> faq >> >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- > faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq