[ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5

LOL!!  Always glad to help out if I can.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5


> Thank you Phil, although you have lots of hands... I found them very 
> informative and quite 
> helpful.
> HF
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:30 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>
>
>> Hmm, good question.  Not sure really.  For example, CT handles affects 
>> dialog boxes such as the 
>> Cakewalk FX EQ, a bit better than the free scripts do.  Meaning that all of 
>> the buttons and 
>> sliders are fully scripted for.  On the other hand, the guys who write the 
>> free scripts are 
>> improving boxes like this all of the time so, I guess it could be a matter 
>> of time until dialog 
>> boxes such as this have been totally scripted.  Also, the free scripts, tend 
>> to encourage the 
>> user to use keystrokes that are already built into Sonar, rather than 
>> implementing new keystrokes 
>> that are a feature of CT. I personally don't think that's a bad thing at all 
>> as I personally feel 
>> that it's better for the user to learn the host application, rather than 
>> learning CT which, is a 
>> bolted on to Sonar.  I have taken this approach as most of my clients are 
>> sighted.  Also, I 
>> personally like to be able to have the option to work without applications 
>> such as CT.  This has 
>> enabled me to get into using Sonar 5 early on as CT isn't available for that 
>> yet.
>>
>> Having said all that, I am not knocking CT as there could be some people out 
>> there who would find 
>> exclusively using Sonar on it's own with free scripts, too much of a 
>> learning curve.  CT comes 
>> with a ton of well written documentation which, if you don't have any 
>> working  knowledge of the 
>> audio and MIDI environment, could be useful.  Having said that, I haven't 
>> ever really need to or, 
>> used any of the tutorials that ship with CT as I find the Sonar help system, 
>> more than adequate 
>> for my needs.
>>
>> On the other hand, CT does seem to make the Sonar environment a bit more 
>> robust.  Meaning that, 
>> if you click on something E.G, such as opening a softsynthe then, CT will do 
>> exactly what it is 
>> supposed to.  Also, pressing function key F2 in order to read and reset 
>> record and playback 
>> metres, is far less clunky than the free scripts alt control and the letter 
>> M.
>>
>> my conclusion on this is that to go from Using CT to free scripts is 
>> probably less of a learning 
>> curve if you never used CT and Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.  I am one such user who 
>> never did use CT 
>> with Cakewalk Pro Audio at all.  I barely used Cakewalk Pro Audio at all and 
>> when I did, that was 
>> with free scripts that shipped with Jaws.  I started using Sonar, long 
>> before any scripts were 
>> available, free or CT.
>>
>> On the other hand, I find some of the keyboard shortcuts that have been 
>> implemented in the free 
>> scripts, a bit more intuitive in the track view. For example, control, 
>> shift, and the letter f, 
>> will jump you to the affects column, Control shift and N, for the name 
>> column, control shift and 
>> V, for the volume column and control shift and P for the pan column. I 
>> personally find that way 
>> easier than having to try and remember how many times I need to press a 
>> keystroke in CT in order 
>> to jump to say, column 10 in the track view.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
>> P J Muir Productions
>> www.philmuir.com/
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:10 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>>
>>
>>> Having used both, Phil what can't you do with the free scripts that you can 
>>> do easier with CT?
>>> And vice versa.
>>> HF
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:19 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>>>
>>>
>>>> CT 4 doesn't work with Sonar 5.  You will ether need to wait for CT for 
>>>> Sonar 5 to come out or, 
>>>> use the free Jaws scripts that are available. Note: Dancing Dots don't 
>>>> support the free 
>>>> scripts. Having said that, they do work quite well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>
>>>> P J Muir Productions
>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David P Shortland" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] CT4 & Sonar 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from Down Under....:)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone using CT4 with Sonar 5?
>>>>>
>>>>> CT4 and Sonar 4.03 are very happy together, just having a little trouble 
>>>>> when I start getting 
>>>>> a lot of trax (around 30 or so) with plugs in etc etc... I feel that JAWS 
>>>>> loses focus quite a 
>>>>> lot and cannot find name of trax or even locate trax themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did read somewhere to locate a track by name , but could not find it on 
>>>>> reread of CT 
>>>>> Tutorial, perhaps someone could point me in the correct direction?....:)
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not wish to compromise my system if I install Sonar 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> With much thanx....
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> (Still really really enjOying CT) ....:)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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