[cryptome] Re: Scottish Independence?
- From: Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:44:27 -0700
as far as their national currency, its not unheard of for a country to
atleast CONSIDER the use of cryptocurrency.
On Monday, September 8, 2014, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Silent1,
> I am a member Yougov, but they didn't give me the chance to vote in any of
> their polls on Scotland. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the
> "Yes" lot are using such tactics...I dare say, so are the "No" vote...who
> is the biggest. And why is it all so urgent...tomorrow is another day.
> Long before the referendum, I watched the various debates in the
> parliamentary committees on the Scottish question...one could see then how
> the arguments were going to pan out. I loved the currency question, when
> it came up at in the Financial Committee. Completely flummoxed the
> Scottish Civil Servant, I was surprised that Salmond got caught out on it,
> he is a wiley politician if there is one.
>
> It will be interesting to find out how the social media has been used by
> all the Parties, institutions and organisations, and how much it will
> influence the outcome. I dare say that some academic will be doing a
> report on it.
>
> Regarding The West Lothian Question...I fully agree. I don't see why the
> M.P.s representing Scottish constituencies should be allowed to vote in the
> Westminster Parliament on what are English questions. The issue has been
> raised many times by the Scottish nationalists, they drew Cameron's
> attention to the contradiction, but it was ignored, too busy fighting and
> funding foreign wars and supporting the U.S. and the Al Quaeda Liberation
> Front in Syria.
>
> If Cameron had paid more attention and put more money into the kitty, then
> perhaps his Conservative/Liberal government and their "Better Together"
> cronies would be in a stronger position, both in England as well as
> Scotland. English Nationalists, little Englanders and UKIP popping up
> everywhere.
>
> I loved the crack made by a member of the public at one of the debates
> between the Scottish P.M. Alex Salmond and the "Better Together" leader,
> Alistair Darling. He asked Mr. Darling why we weren't better together now,
> rather than getting on better in the future...difficult one to answer...got
> a big laugh...:-).
> ATB
> Dougie.
>
> On 08/09/14 19:15, Silent1 wrote:
>
>> Just a small note regarding polling, a lot of the yes voting camp were
>> getting people the sign up to yougov (the main referendum polling agency) a
>> few months ago so it can't be taken to be all that accurate.
>> I'm indifferent to Scotland leaving or staying I'd rather the West
>> Lothian question was sorted though.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of doug
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:43 PM
>> To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [cryptome] Scottish Independence?
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> With the recent polls giving the "Yes to Independence" vote a small
>> majority for the first time in the referendum on nationhood....which has
>> shocked a number of their English "betters" and surprised the Scots Nats
>> even more. I was just thinking about the strategic implications for the
>> Western powers if the Scottish people do decide to leave the UK and
>> strike out on their own. It would certainly mean some kind of changes
>> to NATO, to 5 eyes, to various Western alliances, and England's position
>> in the world. it is a different proposition arguing world politics and
>> sending armies to Afghanistan, Iraq and such like, as a "little
>> Englander" nation rather than the United Kingdom. One can see why Obama
>> wants Scotland to stay as part of the UK, what with the polaris bases
>> and storage facilities and other US listening posts based there. There
>> are a lot of Scots wanting rid of these facilities and would rather
>> spend the money on "proper" jobs like tourism and protecting the
>> environment. I wonder if Obama and the NSA will offer pots of money for
>> a new Scottish C.I.A. and NSA to work in alliance with GCHQ and the
>> secret intelligence service. I wonder if the S.I.S. will consider us as
>> friendly aliens". I wonder if the S.I.S. and the security service,
>> considers all of those who support yes and vote yes, as enemies of the
>> state, radicals and targets of operations...
>>
>> It is interesting to note, too, that the very Conservative Westminster
>> parliament, after being very negative about the Scots being able to do
>> without the support, expertise and money from the English parliament,
>> that the Conservative politicians are now offering all sorts of carrots
>> to keep the Scots in the kingdom. And this is being done...AFTER...some
>> of the voting has already taken place. That wouldn't be allowed to
>> happen in a UK election, yet it is being forced upon the Scots. i
>> wonder how the Scots will react to it. The same thing happened with the
>> Poll Tax, the Scots bore the brunt of it.
>>
>> All the stops are being pulled out at Westminster, the dirty tricks are
>> starting, and I dare say that the U.S. embassy will be sticking its oar
>> in as well...
>>
>> Maybe the Scots should use the dollar...rather than the pound...:-).
>> Food for thought.
>> ATB
>> Dougie.
>> P.S. I am not a nationalist, nor am I for or against independence. Just
>> like being a member of the E.U. I don't have a clue whether it is a
>> good or a bad thing. Personally, I think small is beautiful.
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