Hahaha,, very funny messages today,, cloning humans will never happen,, maybe in 30 - 90 years from now it will be possible Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:26:28 To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: USF4 changes! Or if you cloned yourself as a woman would you be a frigid bitch or a loose slut? I'll ask Bison. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One wonders... > > How much of this is hardcoded into your genes or due to other > circumstances. > > Like if you would clone a person. Would they have the same sexual > orientation or violent tendencies or other cravings or whatever one is > suppose to call them etc. etc. > > Got reminded of this watching Orphan black the other day. (Involves > cloning etc.) > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:06:46 +0200 > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! > From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Using rational solutions for irrational problems. > I get it. It doesn't work. > Some folks will not fit into a "normal social standard" no matter how hard > you want them too. > > It's often something I contemplate when it comes to my Catholic doctrine. > People who commit suicide often have mental/chemical imbalances which push > them over the edge. > Should they all be condemned because of it? > It is something I struggle with. > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It gets very tricky though. At some point you have to draw the line. > > But it's actually a very real problem, even in this country. "Tik" babies > are known to have serious cognitive defects and don't play well with > others. I mean that in a very literal sense - they exhibit very aggressive > behaviour and develop very poor (by our standards) social skills. Chances > are, even today in our prisons offenders' parents were or are either > alcoholics or drug addicts, or both. The problem is the correctional > institution is based on the idea that the people within the system are all > "normal" individuals. This is one of the reasons it's very hard to > rehabilitate some prisoners. The methods we use just don't work. > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > That's an interesting perspective on it. As members of society, it's > natural for us to react to such occurrences negatively without trying to > understand the root cause. > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That is a very interesting and profound question that has serious > implications for our legal system. > > I can talk about it at length, but briefly: > - they've discovered that certain (treatable) mental afflictions can > result in violent behaviour > - certain mental afflictions can trigger sexual desires where none existed > before > - diet is correlated with violent behaviour > - certain parasites can control host behaviour > > I'm reminded about the story about Charles Whitman. A few days before his > shooting spree he typed this letter: > > I don't quite understand what it is that compels me to type this > letter.... I don't really understand myself these days... Lately I have > been a victim of many unusual and irrational thoughts. These thoughts > constantly recur, and it requires a tremendous mental effort to > concentrate. I consulted Dr. Cochrum at the University Health Center and > asked him to recommend someone that I could consult with about some > psychiatric disorders I felt I had.... I talked to a doctor once for about > two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt overcome by > overwhelming violent impulses. After one session I never saw the Doctor > again, and since then I have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and > seemingly to no avail. After my death I wish that an autopsy would be > performed to see if there is any visible physical disorder. I have had > tremendous headaches in the past and have consumed two large bottles of > Excedrin in the past three months. > > http://brainmind.com/Amygdala44.html > > After his autopsy the discovered a tumour that was pressing against his > amygdala. > > Then there's stuff like this: > > The sudden and uncontrollable paedophilia exhibited by a 40-year-old man > was caused by an egg-sized brain tumour, his doctors have told a scientific > conference. And once the tumour had been removed, his sex-obsession > disappeared. > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia.html > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Ja, sad bru. > > It would be interesting to see what makes a criminal mind go from just > fantasy to reality. > Then there could be some way to prevent it. > > > > > >