Using rational solutions for irrational problems. I get it. It doesn't work. Some folks will not fit into a "normal social standard" no matter how hard you want them too. It's often something I contemplate when it comes to my Catholic doctrine. People who commit suicide often have mental/chemical imbalances which push them over the edge. Should they all be condemned because of it? It is something I struggle with. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It gets very tricky though. At some point you have to draw the line. > > But it's actually a very real problem, even in this country. "Tik" babies > are known to have serious cognitive defects and don't play well with > others. I mean that in a very literal sense - they exhibit very aggressive > behaviour and develop very poor (by our standards) social skills. Chances > are, even today in our prisons offenders' parents were or are either > alcoholics or drug addicts, or both. The problem is the correctional > institution is based on the idea that the people within the system are all > "normal" individuals. This is one of the reasons it's very hard to > rehabilitate some prisoners. The methods we use just don't work. > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> That's an interesting perspective on it. As members of society, it's >> natural for us to react to such occurrences negatively without trying to >> understand the root cause. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> That is a very interesting and profound question that has serious >>> implications for our legal system. >>> >>> I can talk about it at length, but briefly: >>> - they've discovered that certain (treatable) mental afflictions can >>> result in violent behaviour >>> - certain mental afflictions can trigger sexual desires where none >>> existed before >>> - diet is correlated with violent behaviour >>> - certain parasites can control host behaviour >>> >>> I'm reminded about the story about Charles Whitman. A few days before >>> his shooting spree he typed this letter: >>> >>> I don't quite understand what it is that compels me to type this >>>> letter.... I don't really understand myself these days... Lately I have >>>> been a victim of many unusual and irrational thoughts. These thoughts >>>> constantly recur, and it requires a tremendous mental effort to >>>> concentrate. I consulted Dr. Cochrum at the University Health Center and >>>> asked him to recommend someone that I could consult with about some >>>> psychiatric disorders I felt I had.... I talked to a doctor once for about >>>> two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt overcome by >>>> overwhelming violent impulses. After one session I never saw the Doctor >>>> again, and since then I have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and >>>> seemingly to no avail. After my death I wish that an autopsy would be >>>> performed to see if there is any visible physical disorder. I have had >>>> tremendous headaches in the past and have consumed two large bottles of >>>> Excedrin in the past three months. >>>> >>> http://brainmind.com/Amygdala44.html >>> >>> After his autopsy the discovered a tumour that was pressing against his >>> amygdala. >>> >>> Then there's stuff like this: >>> >>>> The sudden and uncontrollable paedophilia exhibited by a 40-year-old >>>> man was caused by an egg-sized brain tumour, his doctors have told a >>>> scientific conference. And once the tumour had been removed, his >>>> sex-obsession disappeared. >>>> >>> >>> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Ja, sad bru. >>>> >>>> It would be interesting to see what makes a criminal mind go from just >>>> fantasy to reality. >>>> Then there could be some way to prevent it. >>>> >>> >>> >> >