In a message dated 2/2/2005 12:21:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx writes: Best way to cleanse it is to turn it off. You lose all restore points though. I'm not worried about losing restore points, they're only a few days old, anyway. I've already had it shut down...for nearly a week straight...and ran numerous scans in and out of safe mode. Trojan is still there. Dale