In a message dated 4/23/04 7:53:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rhb57@xxxxxxxxxx writes: oops, reference to phone maker should be "spelt" Siemens (damn typist!) been poping pimples again ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough .Groucho Marx (1890 - 1977)