If this is it I got it: http://www.sceneo.tv/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1 right after DirectX. It looks like it is freeware all the time the way they have it look... Thank you, Eric Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuffy10@xxxxxxx To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:16 PM Subject: [CTS] Re: Easter freebie----- Today Only In a message dated 4/11/04 5:30:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx writes: available here on sceneo.tv. http://www.sceneo.tv/index.php?newlang=english You gotta be kidding ??? Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough .Groucho Marx (1890 - 1977)