well, Robert, since we’re using the push back now by simply pushing straight back. Wouldn’t it fit with my original recommendation by placing it in between have a good flight by the push back ground crew and just before the start up check list begins. Blind Pilot who admits that he still might be a wet behind the ears of a pilot but still is learning each and every day he flys. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." From: Robert Cezar Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:27 PM To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Need some feedback. Hello Ron, You are absolutely correct. It was originally placed there to accommodate BVI members, because BVI members rarely conducted the Push Back sequence. I will figure out another way to side-step this issue. Regards, Robert On . Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Now that Robert has subscribed. I think that the question have we received the salute is in the wrong place. How can we say that we've received the salute if the push back crew hasn't given it to us until they say to have a nice flight? So I recommend the following. I say that the question have we received the salute should be just after the pushback just before the start up. Or am I wrong on this point? Just curious to know what my fellow BVI pilots think and if they agree or disagree with me on the above point. Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." Blind and Visually impaired Pilots mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/bvipilots To post a message to the list, send a message to bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word unsubscribe in the subject of your message. For other options such as digest, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word help in the subject of your message. -- AOPA Member No: 06936977