Hello,
What if, for example, I want to use speech rather than display?
I'm on rate 16 for years, now. That, will always be quicker than
a braille display. With that, I can't use speech, at all.
Sent from the BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul <turtlefam28@xxxxxxxxx
To: kskristen@xxxxxxxxx, zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx+
Date sent: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:28:41 -0600
Subject: re: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
I totally agree with you Kristen. When I heard of this option, I
wanted to yell at humanware! Do you know how stupid! This option
is? I really hate it! It has no! Use what so ever! Some quizs
need the calculator. Why can't they make the bn more fun! Why?
Did a strickt ol teacher say I want my kid to not be able to do
other things when they are testing? When I do quizs, I hear
students ask the teacher if they can listen to music. The
teacher sometimes says yes. What if a blind student wants to
listen to music during a test? So stupid! I tell you! So! Stupid!
I feel like calling humanware and cussing them out right now!
Humanware has done nothing! To make us people feel better! I say
forget you humanware!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kristen Steele <kskristen@xxxxxxxxx
To: zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 19:20:07 -0500
Subject: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
I couldn't agree more in that Exam Mode does not seem like a
useful
feature at all. Some exams I have taken in the past require the
use of
a calculator and/or spell checker, which cannot be utilized in
Exam
Mode. It's disappointing that they're implementing unnecessary
features like this when I have requested several more beneficial
items, such as more advanced formatting capabilities, live
document
collaboration, etc. Exam Mode only makes us rely more heavily on
sighted assistance to release its constraints in order to use
other
applications to which other students have access during test
time,
lessing the independence that now comes with the Apex. Also, if
taking
tests in a couple of sittings, the time required to wait on a
sighted
person to enter and exit this mode will only dip into our
allotted
test time or take extra time in general than before.
I am impassioned that HumanWare's newest update is decreasing
independence of Braille users when their mission is the exact
opposite. Not to mention, it causes the blind student to stand
out
more in the classroom than is needed. Furthermore, I would be
willing
to start a petition against this feature, if anyone is with me.
If so,
how would I go about creating one online for signatures of
affected
users? In my opinion, HumanWare's first sample of KS 9.5 should
not be
a limitation, but rather, something to enhance its usability to
that
of today's mainstream technology and to equalize our potential to
the
sighted world.
--
Kristen
On 4/20/15, petras <zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For the password to turn on the braillenote, you cant do a flash
disk format, until it is unlocked.
----- Original Message -----
From: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
To: joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx, zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx,
braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:04:19 +0100
Subject: re: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
Hello All, And Joseph,
Now, I will say no details, but my helpers, in school, can not
use the bn, what so ever. But especially not computer braille.
So for one thing, they can't set a password. Especially if I
set
a password on the unit beforehand, in computer braille. Then
once, (if ever) they get in, we still have a few problems. If,
I
set the password, I will obviously unlock the thing, whenever I
want it to. I think, due to the terminal mode, doing a flash
disk format will in fact, be doable. I can see a few work
arounds, that could be put into place, but I will not say them,
at this point. If my teacher sets up the password, I speed back
up speech, and could gather password, and get out. But, after
my
discovery, here's another thing. Since, I know where login.ini
is, and the bn would be connected to a pc, someone could get in
a
bootable image of NVDA, start it, and the process from then on
is
smooth. Once I get in, I can refresh active synk, and delete
the
login. After that, reset bn, and off I go, chat with my
friends.
This is just an idea for now, but if someone feels adventurous,
like yourself, I would really have a go at this. PS. I think,
the
regular unlock file, would unlock it. Too bad I have never got
my hands on one, to play with it, even more.
Sent from the BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx
To: <zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx>,<braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:46:32 -0700
Subject: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
Hi,
This is only my guess, based on Greg's video:
If you set a password (for that's what locks the unit into exam
mode),
you'll be stuck in braille terminal mode. Even if you reset the
unit, it'll
be locked into this mode unless we can figure out a flaw to
unlock this
functionality.
The following is my guesses as to what Apex will do when this
mode is
engaged:
1. The framework uses the password feature, introduced a few
years back.
This is evidenced by the fact that exam mode can be engaged just
as one
would set a password.
2. Once the exam mode password is set, BrailleNote will launch
braille
terminal mode once you confirm the password and answer yes to
confirm
changes (does not return you to main menu at all). This
suggests
that some
major refactor has been done on KeySoft.exe source code to
enable
future
scenarios where apps can be locked via a password.
3. Once in exam mode, you cannot exit exam mode unless you type
the exam
mode password at the exit prompt, akin to unlocking your Apex
with a
password. The fact that this persists even after a warm reset
tells me that
a file-based password bank is in use (Rajmund and others found
this out a
few months back), which means a malicious user could
hypothetically gain
access to Apex's storage system (Flash Disk) to remove the exam
mode
password unless ActiveSync lockdown is in place.
I can see some major issues with exam mode:
* What if the student forgot the password? A tedious procedure
must be
followed to unlock the unit, if it exists.
* There is no time limit feature where exam mode can be
disengaged
automatically.
* If access to Options Menu is possible and if support
information mode can
be accessed, this may not stop the student from "forcing" the
BrailleNote to
surrender the password (Flash Disk Reformat) unless if it
prompts
for a
password.
With exam mode in place, I can see a host of possibilities,
including
locking some features of the brailleNote with a password,
further
refactoring of KeySoft.exe source code (written in C++) and so
on.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of petras
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 12:31 PM
To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BNU] problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
Hi, My braillenote has been having major issues and exam mod
when
it comes
out will not work properly. I could potenally get out of the
test by doing
a reset and when it would start it would go to the main menu.
That's why
exam mode will be no use. What should I do when it comes out?
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