Hello,
Sorry, it does display them on the display. For example, keychat
never hides them.
Sent from the BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon S" <koala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "Braille Note" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:37:35 +1000
Subject: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
Hi all, wouldn't teachers be able to enter a password using an
external
keyboard? If the student got them into the right area so all the
teacher
needs to do is type the password then they could do this on the
keyboard and
then at the end of the exam the student gets the BN into where
the password
needs to go so again the teacher just needs to type the password.
This way
the teacher doesn't need to know Braille so you get around that
issue. Also
the student wouldn't know the password because the BN doesn't
read passwords
out loud or display them on the Braille display when you are
entering them.
Just my thoughts but we will have to wait until it is released
before we can
get all our questions answered.
From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
To: "petras" <zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx>; <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx>;
<joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>; <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:54 AM
Subject: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
| Hello,
| Things like this, we do not know. As for who can use the bn,
and
| who cannot, again, that's another worry of mine, and it goes
| entirely beyond me, why hw decided to do it this way.
|
| Sent from the BrailleNote
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: petras <zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx
| To: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx>,
joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx,
| zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:52:07 -0700
| Subject: re: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
|
| Would this password be another loginddini for braille terminal?
| This would be unusable to me. How would you get an admin to
set
| up a braillenote. No one "as how to use the braillenote except
| me. Or what would the file of the password be called?
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx
| To: joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx, zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx,
| braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:04:19 +0100
| Subject: re: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
|
| Hello All, And Joseph,
| Now, I will say no details, but my helpers, in school, can not
| use the bn, what so ever. But especially not computer braille.
| So for one thing, they can't set a password. Especially if I
set
| a password on the unit beforehand, in computer braille. Then
| once, (if ever) they get in, we still have a few problems. If,
I
| set the password, I will obviously unlock the thing, whenever I
| want it to. I think, due to the terminal mode, doing a flash
| disk format will in fact, be doable. I can see a few work
| arounds, that could be put into place, but I will not say them,
| at this point. If my teacher sets up the password, I speed
back
| up speech, and could gather password, and get out. But, after
my
| discovery, here's another thing. Since, I know where login.ini
| is, and the bn would be connected to a pc, someone could get in
a
| bootable image of NVDA, start it, and the process from then on
is
| smooth. Once I get in, I can refresh active synk, and delete
the
| login. After that, reset bn, and off I go, chat with my
friends.
| This is just an idea for now, but if someone feels adventurous,
| like yourself, I would really have a go at this. PS. I think,
| the
| regular unlock file, would unlock it. Too bad I have never got
| my hands on one, to play with it, even more.
|
| Sent from the BrailleNote
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx
| To: <zumbagecko@xxxxxxxxx>,<braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Date sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:46:32 -0700
| Subject: [BNU] Re: problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
|
| Hi,
| This is only my guess, based on Greg's video:
| If you set a password (for that's what locks the unit into exam
| mode),
| you'll be stuck in braille terminal mode. Even if you reset
the
| unit, it'll
| be locked into this mode unless we can figure out a flaw to
| unlock this
| functionality.
| The following is my guesses as to what Apex will do when this
| mode is
| engaged:
| 1. The framework uses the password feature, introduced a few
| years back.
| This is evidenced by the fact that exam mode can be engaged
just
| as one
| would set a password.
| 2. Once the exam mode password is set, BrailleNote will launch
| braille
| terminal mode once you confirm the password and answer yes to
| confirm
| changes (does not return you to main menu at all). This
suggests
| that some
| major refactor has been done on KeySoft.exe source code to
enable
| future
| scenarios where apps can be locked via a password.
| 3. Once in exam mode, you cannot exit exam mode unless you
type
| the exam
| mode password at the exit prompt, akin to unlocking your Apex
| with a
| password. The fact that this persists even after a warm reset
| tells me that
| a file-based password bank is in use (Rajmund and others found
| this out a
| few months back), which means a malicious user could
| hypothetically gain
| access to Apex's storage system (Flash Disk) to remove the exam
| mode
| password unless ActiveSync lockdown is in place.
| I can see some major issues with exam mode:
| * What if the student forgot the password? A tedious procedure
| must be
| followed to unlock the unit, if it exists.
| * There is no time limit feature where exam mode can be
| disengaged
| automatically.
| * If access to Options Menu is possible and if support
| information mode can
| be accessed, this may not stop the student from "forcing" the
| BrailleNote to
| surrender the password (Flash Disk Reformat) unless if it
prompts
| for a
| password.
| With exam mode in place, I can see a host of possibilities,
| including
| locking some features of the brailleNote with a password,
further
| refactoring of KeySoft.exe source code (written in C++) and so
| on.
| Cheers,
| Joseph
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| [mailto:braillenote-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of petras
| Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 12:31 PM
| To: braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [BNU] problem when keysoft 9.5 comes out
|
| Hi, My braillenote has been having major issues and exam mod
when
| it comes
| out will not work properly. I could potenally get out of the
| test by doing
| a reset and when it would start it would go to the main menu.
| That's why
| exam mode will be no use. What should I do when it comes out?
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