I agree: good point there. On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:36:21 +1100, Alana wrote: >One problem with that idea is that purchase of the account would have to be >coordinated, I assume. While I agree we shouldn't ask for consideration just >because we are blind in general, sometimes people need to take in to account >what we need to have access to information before making such a policy. I >don't >mean to offend anyone here. If we want to show we are independent sometimes >policies have to be neutral so everybody can have access to the information. >Some people might not be able to afford these extra costs, not just blind >people. Having said that, if there is any reason to have any consideration, it >would simply be to make everything equal so that we can have access to the >same >information as sighted people. i think there needs to be a balance here. >Overall, we shouldn't ask for special consideration, but if sighted people >want >us to be self-sufficient we need to have the means to access that information. >For some users on this list, the BN might be the only thing they have for >browsing the web, if they do not have a smart phone. This is where >consideration needs to come in when designing such policies. Of course >Skweezer would not know about this, this is why they need to be informed. > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 03/02/2013, at 11:43 AM, Cricket Bidleman <cricketbidleman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>That's a good idea. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: John Patrick Houck <victimsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxx >>To: Braillenote <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date sent: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:41:56 -0600 >>Subject: [BNU] e: Re: Skweezer And The Apex >> >> >> >>Hello Alex, when I suggested people email them I didn't mean for >>them to play the blind card and ask for exceptions. I have >>talked with my ISP but don't know anything yet. I have also >>emailed skweezer support inquiring about the possibility of >>buying an account exclusively for the blind. >>Sincerely, >>John >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx >>To: rbacchus228@xxxxxxxxx >>Date sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:48:39 -0500 >>Subject: [BNU] Re: Skweezer And The Apex >> >>I want to point out one thing: why should bn users get special >>treatment? If the service is valuable to you, why not follow the >>instructions laid out in the message from Skweezer, instead of >>asking them to make exceptions just because you use their >>service? Basically, you are saying that you wish to continue to >>use something for free because it is useful, yet that very >>popularity is likely why they needed to monetize the service in >>the first place. Am I missing something here? 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