[bookshare-discuss] audio books abridged..
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:02:06 -0800 (PST)
A lot of audiio books seem to be abridged. I was
surprised to notice that when selecting audio books
for a friend of mine who hates abridged books. In our
bookstore we have a lot that have been donated, and I
brought home quite a few for her to choose from among
and they were all abridged. After that I looked
carefully at both ones the librarians were discarding
and others that were donated to us, and extermely few
were unabridged. I have no idea why that would be.
Several said "approved by the author." I admit that I
skip some descriptions in some books and get to the
story, but that should be my choice, not someone
else's.
Cindy
--- Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That story does not surprise me.
> When I met Noah Adams at a Corporation for Public
> Broadcasting meeting and
> told him of his titles in the NLS program he said
> the same thing. why did
> not they ask me to read it?
> I agree with those about the fact NLS is playing
> with abridged material,
> in theory at least. i saw someone suggesting that "
> sighted people" came
> up with the abridged concept etc as if this were
> some kind of conspiracy
> against the blind, and that is really silly since
> the audio
> book exists in that format to encourage people to
> buy the print ones, or
> for those who want to read on the go in a way.
> Goodness many who could
> use the NLS program do not even know of its
> existence.
>
> Still I am going to phone the national headquarters
> next week and ask
> them.
> The purpose of the library in the first place was to
> create access to
> full text for those who indeed could not take part
> in their public
> libraries.
> I will have to get the Nixon book too.
> Karen
>
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote:
>
> > Back in the 80s? I think, Larry King - the talk
> show host, not the other
> > author with the same name - wrote an autobiography
> which NLS recorded.
> > Someone called him up one night and mentioned that
> it was available as a
> > talking book, and he was a little miffed that he
> wasn't asked to read his own
> > book. He said he would have done it.
> >
> > If you want to listen to a former president read a
> book, RFB&D has a book,
> > "Real Peace" by Richard Nixon, read by Richard
> Nixon. As far as I know, it
> > is unabridged; he read the whole thing. It's not
> a very long book, nothing
> > compared to Clinton's monster.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen
> Lewellen"
> > <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:13 PM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS
> Members? (was) Re: Bad scan
> > Wheel of...
> >
> >
> >> Oh,
> >> The first one is as it says not an NLS book, but
> they took the random
> >> house audio-book, which are often abridged and
> just made a NLS style copy.
> >> That is not recorded by nls as your second entry
> illustrates.
> >> Wonder why they just did not ask Bill to read
> the book for the service,
> >> unless this would have been against the
> randomhouse contract.
> >> Many years ago one could fine even NLS titles
> read by the authors
> >> themselves. For example the first copy of "I
> know why the caged bird
> >> sings," was read by the author, and the first
> copy of Edward alby's play
> >> "who's afraid of Virginia wouf," was actually an
> audio recording of the
> >> stage production.
> >> Perhaps an effort to give listener's some
> advance idea of how the digital
> >> talking books will sound? I have not followed
> it closely, but I hope that
> >> technology will still make use of human
> narrators.
> >> Karen
> >>
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's the proof:
> >> >
> >> > Author: Clinton, Bill, 1946-
> >> > Title: My life [sound recording] /
> Bill Clinton.
> >> > Edition: Abridged.
> >> > Published: New York, N.Y. : Random House
> Audio, c2004.
> >> > (Distributed in special format for the Library
> of Congress by
> >> > Talking Book Publishers)
> >> > Description: 2 sound cassettes (C-90) :
> analog, 15/16 ips, 4
> >> > track, mono.
> >> > Book Number: RC 58101
> >> > Dewey No.: 973.929092 B ANF
> >> > ISBN: 0739317059
> >> > Notes: A shared master program book.
> The Random House
> >> > Audio recording has been adapted by NLS. The
> publication has
> >> > been changed to 15/16 ips, 4 track format.
> Side announcements
> >> > have been added.
> >> > Digital master.
> >> >
> >> > However they did record the original version
> as well:
> >> >
> >> > Author: Clinton, Bill, 1946-
> >> > Title: My life [sound recording] /
> Bill Clinton.
> >> > Published: New York, N.Y. : Random House
> Audio, c2004.
> >> > (Distributed in special format for the Library
> of Congress by
> >> > Talking Book Publishers)
> >> > Description: 9 sound cassettes in two
> containers (C-90) :
> >> > analog, 15/16 ips, 4 track, mono.
> >> > Book Number: RC 58100
> >> > Dewey No.: 973.929092 B ANF
> >> > ISBN: 0375414576
> >> > Notes: A shared master program book.
> The Random House
> >> > Audio recording has been adapted by NLS. The
> publication has
> >> > been changed to 15/16 ips, 4 track format.
> Side announcements
> >> > have been added.
> >> >
> >> > Actually, they didn't record either one at the
> talking book studios the
> >> > way they usually make talking books by the
> looks of things, which might
> >> > explain how they got them out so fast. I
> don't know which one came out
> >> > first, though they both came out quicker than
> usual.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen
> Lewellen"
> >> > <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:59 PM
> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS
> Members? (was) Re: Bad
> >> > scan Wheel of...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > What proof do you have that the clinton
> auto biography was abridged?
> >> > > NLS
> >> > > never records abridged versions, as this
> would serve no one.
> >> > > Also, on some occasions NLS has an
> arrangement with the publisher to
> >> > > have
> >> > > access to books either just before or at
> the exact time of printing.
> >> > > Such
> >> > > speeds up the time it takes in getting a
> book on the library shelves,
> >> > > but
> >> > > can also in the case of book to movie
> adaptations result in some
> >> > > different
> >> > > endings than either the films themselves or
> later publications of
> >> > > those
> >> > > kinds of books.
> >> > > I am an NLS fan always will be. Bookshare
> will not be able to equal
> >> > > the
> >> > > NLS reach or quality for a variety of
> reasons in my view.
> >> > > nor should it. there should be a choice
> here as with other things.
> >> > >
> >> > > Karen
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Evan Reese wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Was that the abridged version? I thought
> they got it out faster
> >> > > > than usual, and I thought that was a
> really long book for them to
> >> > > > get done so quickly. That must have been
> the reason.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also, if you can spring for one of those
> Handicassettes, you can
> >> > > > change the speed of the narrator's voice
> without changing the pitch.
> >> > > > I think they're overpriced, but I use it
> all the time to read books
> >> > > > and magazines on tape.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: Gailselfridge@xxxxxxx
> >> > > > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:15 AM
> >> > > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How
> Many NLS Members? (was) Re:
> >> > > > Bad
> >> > > > scan Wheel of...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I agree with Shannon. I just read a Nora
> Roberts series and I'm sure
> >> > > > NLS will have it eventually, but I didn't
> have to wait. Also, when I
> >> > > > started with Bookshare, I read Bill
> Clinton's biography, the whole
> >> > > > thing. NLS had it at about the same time,
> but it was the abridged
> >> > > > version and I wanted to read all of it.
> And I find I can read faster
> >> > > > with bookshare books because I use my
> screen reader and can increase
> >> > > > the speed to a much faster rate than is
> used by NLS narrators. The
> >> > > > only way I can do this with NLS books is
> to increase tape speed
> >> > > > which distorts the narrator's voice.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Gail
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