James, Susan, and all -- -- I also use text allowed to convert my books to MP3. I use text allowed much as James does but when I unpacked the book I select the option to save it as an HTML file. Text allowed will read HTML files directly and it eliminates the need to use Word to convert a text file. The handiest little MP3 player I have found is Creative Labs basic Zen Stone. It is small, light, and very easy to use. There are no menus to complicate the operation and there is no visual display except an on and off light. It is also cheap and readily available anywhere for around $34. I hope everybody enjoys great reading this summer. I loved Bookshare! Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: James Nuttall To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: synthetic voice shock Hello Susan: It takes some work to transform a Bookshare book into an audio MP3 book with a natural sounding text-to-speech reader. Here are some of the steps that I follow. (1) I take a Bookshare book into Microsoft Word and save it as a text file. (2) I then take this text file into a program called TextAloud which you can get from www.nextup.com you can then save this text output as an audio MP3. You use natural sounding human voices such as the NeoSpeech voices which can also purchase from www.nextup.com (3) you can then place these MP3 files on any MP3 player or on a device like a Victor Reader Stream. James Nuttall ----- Original Message ---- From: "Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx" <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:18:40 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: synthetic voice shock The synthetic voice is certainly not as pleasant to listen to as the human voice, but as we can all see, it has its advantages. One is that there are not enough human readers available to read all the books that Bookshare can give us access to. I just got a Victor stream and even though the screen reader voice on that device is advertised as human sounding it sure does not sound human to me. Another advantage to synthetic voices is that human readers always give an interpretation to what they are reading by tone of voice or other nuances. NLs readers, being professional actors, are less likely to editorialize with their voices, but, especially when reading a work of fiction, they often give their own dramatic flair and thereby, their own interpretation to the reading. RFB&D readers, however, are very poor at hiding their opinions on the subject matter as expressed in their voices. Synthetic voices, on the other hand, do not interpret. They allow me to decide on my own interpretation much as I did when reading before I lost my eyesight. Despite the advantages, though, that robot voice does take some getting used to. I remember my revulsion at it at first myself, but I got used to it and I am quite confident that anyone else could get used to it too. You might want to reassure them that they can get used to it. Also, there is a website that has examples of some really human sounding synthetic voices. I visited it a long time ago and I am not sure I remember its URL and I am not checking it right now, but I think that it might be something like NaturalVoices.com. If not, try variations and similar names. I do not recall if the voices are for sale, but they are the best synthetic voices I ever heard. In a message dated 7/30/2008 11:59:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, slger123@xxxxxxxxx writes: Hi, possibly OT, but fastest way I could figure to reach booksharians.. I post to a mailing list for support for macular degenerates in various stages of vision loss. Explaining how to use Bookshare invokes a major YECH about robotic voices. Indeed, the demo on the bookshare website is pretty bad, far worse than natural voices that might be less repellant. There should be a steady flow of baby boomers becoming eligible for bookshare who might need some help overcoming what I have termed synthetic voice shock. see more just posted at http://asyourworldchanges.wordpress.com. so, how can we help? Is there an alternate bookshare book reading site? podcast? demo? How can I refer Vision Losers to the most positive and helpful introduction to book reading? Please let me add my appreciation for how much easier Bookshare made my rite of passage into partial sight two years ago. I found it easy to get admitted to membership then realized how much reading I could do, so went out and bought the book reader devices I needed. I'm still a novice scanner with 3 books yet to be submitted so I especially appreciate the volunteer corps work. I'd like to make this possible also for older people to cross the chasm of assistive tech. advice? susan "As Your World changes" blog at http://asyourworldchanges.wordpress.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. .