[bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: synthetic voice shock

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:24:27 -0400

Dear James, and Booksharian Friends,

Better voices for Bookshare books! can't wait to turn one of my wanna reads 
books into an MP3, and if I don't have the computer sense to follow your steps, 
I'm lucky to have many Booksharian friends who can follow them while scanning 
with one hand and fixing dinner with the other and listening to Mystery Science 
Fiction Theater or whatever it's called in the background,  at the same time. I 
hadn't listened to them other than on my desk top where I like the way JAWS 
reads because I didn't like the Daisy voice and don't have a Book port or 
Victor Stream. When I am at the computer, I validate compulsively, and only 
listen to Bookshare downloads when I'm eating a meal or shuffling stacks of 
books. But an MP3 player I can afford and I'll be able to read Bookshare books 
while I'm doing other things. Right now I lug my old NLS talking Book machine 
around with me. Those books are usually splendidly read, so it's worth it. I 
seem to live by the principle that you can't have too many books so soon it'll 
be a talking book or MP3 player keeping me entertained at all times. 

Always with love,

Lissi

Thanks so much for explaining your methods!

Always with love,

Lissi

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Nuttall 
  To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:39 PM
  Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: synthetic voice shock


  Hello Susan:

  It takes some work to transform a Bookshare book into an audio MP3 book with 
a natural sounding text-to-speech reader.  Here are some of the steps that I 
follow.

  (1) I take a Bookshare book into Microsoft Word and save it as a text file.
  (2) I then take this text file into a program called TextAloud which you can 
get from www.nextup.com 
   you can then save this text output as an audio MP3.  You use natural 
sounding human voices such as the NeoSpeech voices which can also purchase from 
www.nextup.com
  (3) you can then place these MP3 files on any MP3 player or on a device like 
a Victor Reader Stream.

  James Nuttall





  ----- Original Message ----
  From: "Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx" <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:18:40 PM
  Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: synthetic voice shock


  The synthetic voice is certainly not as pleasant to listen to as the human 
voice, but as we can all see, it has its advantages. One is that there are not 
enough human readers available to read all the books that Bookshare can give us 
access to. I just got a Victor stream and even though the screen reader voice 
on that device is advertised as human sounding it sure does not sound human to 
me. Another advantage to synthetic voices is that human readers always give an 
interpretation to what they are reading by tone of voice or other nuances. NLs 
readers, being professional actors, are less likely to editorialize with their 
voices, but, especially when reading a work of fiction, they often give their 
own dramatic flair and thereby, their own interpretation to the reading. RFB&D 
readers, however, are very poor at hiding their opinions on the subject matter 
as expressed in their voices. Synthetic voices, on the other hand, do not 
interpret. They allow me to decide on my own interpretation much as I did when 
reading before I lost my eyesight. Despite the advantages, though, that robot 
voice does take some getting used to. I remember my revulsion at it at first 
myself, but I got used to it and I am quite confident that anyone else could 
get used to it too. You might want to reassure them that they can get used to 
it. Also, there is a website that has examples of some really human sounding 
synthetic voices. I visited it a long time ago and I am not sure I remember its 
URL and I am not checking it right now, but I think that it might be something 
like NaturalVoices.com. If not, try variations and similar names. I do not 
recall if the voices are for sale, but they are the best synthetic voices I 
ever heard. In a message dated 7/30/2008 11:59:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
slger123@xxxxxxxxx writes:
    Hi, possibly OT, but fastest way I could figure to reach booksharians..


    I post to a mailing list for support for macular degenerates in various 
stages 
    of vision loss.  Explaining how to use  Bookshare  invokes a major YECH 
about 
    robotic voices. Indeed, the demo on the bookshare website is pretty bad, 
far 
    worse than natural voices that might be less repellant.  There should be a 
    steady flow of baby boomers becoming eligible for bookshare who might need 
some 
    help overcoming what I have termed synthetic voice shock. see more just 
posted 
    at http://asyourworldchanges.wordpress.com.


    so, how can we help?  Is there an alternate bookshare book reading site? 
    podcast? demo? How can I refer Vision Losers to the most positive and 
helpful 
    introduction to book reading?

    Please let me add my appreciation for how much easier Bookshare made my 
rite of 
    passage into partial sight two years ago.  I found it easy to get admitted 
to 
    membership then realized how much reading I could do, so went out and 
bought 
    the book reader devices I needed. I'm still a novice scanner with 3 books 
yet 
    to be submitted so I especially appreciate the volunteer corps work. I'd 
like 
    to make this possible also for older people  to cross the chasm of 
assistive 
    tech.


    advice?


    susan
    "As  Your World changes" blog at http://asyourworldchanges.wordpress.com 






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