[bookshare-discuss] Re: OOOps! I spoke out of turn
- From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:48:56 -0500
Hi, Brenda! 99% of the contributors are either volunteers or members or
both. The download limit is 100 books a month, unless as Julie said, you
need to have a staff member re-set the counter. Many of us work too, and we
just enjoy downloading everything we can get our hands on, in hopes of one
day finding the time to read them all... which in my case will take a
miracle! <LOL> Take care!
Jana
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Mueller" <brendin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:55 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OOOps! I spoke out of turn
> Yes, but aren't you staff people from a school or something? I think
individual accounts are only allowed 20 books. Most of the time, that will
work. It's not like I'm in here all day; I have to work.
>
> Brenda Mueller
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:06:21 -0700
> >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OOOps! I spoke out of turn
>
> >Hi, Cindy. No, you're right. We get 100 books per month, but as I just
said
> >in another message, the book counter can be reset, so even the 100 isn't
a
> >written-in-stone limit. Take care.
> >Julie Morales
> >Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> >inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow
in
> >your heart.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:51 PM
> >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] OOOps! I spoke out of turn
>
>
> >OOOps -- Not until I hit send did I realize you said
> >per month. I think the 100 is per year. But I should
> >"butt out" and let other people answer who know more
> >than I. Sorry.
>
> >Cindy
>
> >-- Brenda Mueller <brendin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >> My impression is that I, as an individual subscriber
> >> can download 20 books a month. When I'm working,
> >> that's not going to happen, but when I'm home,
> >> snowed in with the power out, boy, can I read.
> >> Voice note works on batteries. When the power is
> >> out, I turn to Bookshare.
>
> >> Brenda Mueller
>
>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get
> >> read before being submitted?
>
> >>>Julie,
>
> >>>Hopefully you read my reply to boomerdad, but in
> >> case
> >>>not -- be sure to notify Jesse that the book is
> >>>unreadable all the way through.
>
> >>>BTW, Jesse -- when a member downloads a book from
> >> the
> >>>collection that he/she can't enjoy, do they get a
> >>>credit for the book, so it doesn't count against
> >> their
> >>>limit of 50 (or whatever?)
>
> >>>Cindy
> >>>--- "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >>>> I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading
> >> one
> >>>> of the Left Behind
> >>>> books. I was over halfway done with the book when
> >> I
> >>>> encountered pure junk.
> >>>> Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through,
> >> trying
> >>>> to find where I left
> >>>> off or at least somewhere where the text started
> >>>> making sense, but no luck.
> >>>> I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get
> >>>> into a book and not
> >>>> realize it has some junk pages until you've
> >> already
> >>>> gotten into it. I guess
> >>>> I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille,
> >> as I
> >>>> know they have the
> >>>> whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care.
> >>>> Julie Morales
> >>>> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> >>>> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because
> >> He
> >>>> wants to put a rainbow in
> >>>> your heart.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM
> >>>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get
> >> read
> >>>> before being submitted?
>
>
> >>>> After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and
> >>>> Glass by Stephen King (I
> >>>> think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books
> >> when
> >>>> set to scan page layout
> >>>> elements, but that's a whole other topic for
> >> another
> >>>> list), I downloaded WIG
> >>>> from Bookshare and began to read. My first
> >> finding
> >>>> was that the entire book
> >>>> was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I
> >>>> figured well, maybe there
> >>>> was a problem either in converting the book to
> >> the
> >>>> Bookshare format, or
> >>>> maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file
> >>>> something happened. I
> >>>> figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I
> >>>> read. No big. Then I came
> >>>> up on a page that is completely and totally
> >> garbled,
> >>>> beyond any ability to
> >>>> recognize what the text is supposed to be. There
> >>>> are ^ symbols all over the
> >>>> place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is
> >>>> over 600 pages long, and
> >>>> that may be the only page like this ... I stopped
> >>>> reading in disgust and
> >>>> opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with
> >> Openbook.
> >>>> I have yet to do so;
> >>>> that's tomorrow's t
> >>>> hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the
> >> person
> >>>> read this before
> >>>> submitting it, why not re-scan the offending
> >>>> page(s)? And if the submitting
> >>>> person didn't read it before submitting ... why
> >>>> submit something you haven't
> >>>> read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big
> >>>> leap of faith to do this;
> >>>> I've done it twice, and both times I was,
> >>>> thankfully, given the opportunity
> >>>> to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning
> >>>> pages that had
> >>>> unintelligible material. Once I was able to take
> >>>> advantage of the
> >>>> opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a
> >>>> very valuable lesson, as
> >>>> was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience.
> >>>> Besides, if you read
> >>>> something before submitting it, you get a chance
> >> to
> >>>> edit out the errors of a
> >>>> scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of
> >>>> your book.
> >>>> It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the
> >>>> offending page could've been
> >>>> caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered
> >>>> garbled pages like this when
> >>>> scanning with Finereader from time to time. I
> >> find
> >>>> this unlikely, though,
> >>>> since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads
> >> from
> >>>> the Daisy-formatted book,
> >>>> and doesn't "convert" it to anything.
>
> >>>> The only possible objection to this
> >>>> read-before-submitting thing that comes
> >>>> readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many
> >> fewer
> >>>> books would be
> >>>> available," to which I reply that while this is
> >>>> true, the quality of said
> >>>> books would be more consistent, more likely than
> >>>> not, and would lead to many
> >>>> more satisfying reading experiences. I submit
> >> many
> >>>> more books to
> >>>> Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly
> >>>> because I've found from my
> >>>> experiences that downloading a book from
> >> Bookshare
> >>>> is a rather hit-and-miss
> >>>> experience.
>
> >>>> I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any
> >>>> way flaming the individual
> >>>> who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've
> >> had
> >>>> this happen myself to
> >>>> two of my submissions, so the question is more or
> >>>> less hypothetical; I was
> >>>> merely relating my experience, which happened to
> >>>> involve that particular
> >>>> book.
>
> >>>> If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure
> >>>> you it's not intentional.
> >>>> I am frustrated, and that has probably carried
> >> over
> >>>> into my writing, despite
> >>>> my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I
> >> already
> >>>> have scanned the book
> >>>> twice unsuccessfully because of the
> >> affore-mentioned
> >>>> page-layout problem in
> >>>> OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is
> >> ...
> >>>> well ... frustrating.
> >>>> I thought about just trying to re-scan any
> >>>> problematic pages ... but the
> >>>> Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions
> >> don't
> >>>> line up, so I'd have to
> >>>> do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting
> >> and
> >>>> ... yikes...! I think
> >>>> if my problem had just been with garbled pages,
> >> I'd
> >>>> do it, but since I would
> >>>> have to delete all those blank lines as I read
> >> the
> >>>> Bookshare version ...
> >>>> I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the
> >>>> page-layout feature turned
> >>>> off and hope for better results.
>
> >>>> If nothing else, thanks for listening to
> >> (reading)
> >>>> me vent. I realize
> >>>> Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its
> >> existence
> >>>> is a wonderful thing;
> >>>> that's why I've joined it, and that's why I
> >> submit
> >>>> books I read. I just
> >>>> wish that when downloading a book to read from
> >>>> Bookshare, I could be more
> >>>> secure in the knowledge that I won't have to
> >> worry
> >>>> about encountering
> >>>> incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at
> >> what
> >>>> occurred in passages of
> >>>> a book.
>
>
>
>
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