[bookshare-discuss] Re: OOOps! I spoke out of turn
- From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:06:21 -0700
Hi, Cindy. No, you're right. We get 100 books per month, but as I just said
in another message, the book counter can be reset, so even the 100 isn't a
written-in-stone limit. Take care.
Julie Morales
Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in
your heart.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] OOOps! I spoke out of turn
OOOps -- Not until I hit send did I realize you said
per month. I think the 100 is per year. But I should
"butt out" and let other people answer who know more
than I. Sorry.
Cindy
-- Brenda Mueller <brendin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My impression is that I, as an individual subscriber
> can download 20 books a month. When I'm working,
> that's not going to happen, but when I'm home,
> snowed in with the power out, boy, can I read.
> Voice note works on batteries. When the power is
> out, I turn to Bookshare.
>
> Brenda Mueller
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
> >To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
> >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get
> read before being submitted?
>
> >Julie,
>
> >Hopefully you read my reply to boomerdad, but in
> case
> >not -- be sure to notify Jesse that the book is
> >unreadable all the way through.
>
> >BTW, Jesse -- when a member downloads a book from
> the
> >collection that he/she can't enjoy, do they get a
> >credit for the book, so it doesn't count against
> their
> >limit of 50 (or whatever?)
>
> >Cindy
> >--- "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >> I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading
> one
> >> of the Left Behind
> >> books. I was over halfway done with the book when
> I
> >> encountered pure junk.
> >> Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through,
> trying
> >> to find where I left
> >> off or at least somewhere where the text started
> >> making sense, but no luck.
> >> I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get
> >> into a book and not
> >> realize it has some junk pages until you've
> already
> >> gotten into it. I guess
> >> I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille,
> as I
> >> know they have the
> >> whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care.
> >> Julie Morales
> >> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> >> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because
> He
> >> wants to put a rainbow in
> >> your heart.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM
> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get
> read
> >> before being submitted?
>
>
> >> After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and
> >> Glass by Stephen King (I
> >> think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books
> when
> >> set to scan page layout
> >> elements, but that's a whole other topic for
> another
> >> list), I downloaded WIG
> >> from Bookshare and began to read. My first
> finding
> >> was that the entire book
> >> was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I
> >> figured well, maybe there
> >> was a problem either in converting the book to
> the
> >> Bookshare format, or
> >> maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file
> >> something happened. I
> >> figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I
> >> read. No big. Then I came
> >> up on a page that is completely and totally
> garbled,
> >> beyond any ability to
> >> recognize what the text is supposed to be. There
> >> are ^ symbols all over the
> >> place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is
> >> over 600 pages long, and
> >> that may be the only page like this ... I stopped
> >> reading in disgust and
> >> opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with
> Openbook.
> >> I have yet to do so;
> >> that's tomorrow's t
> >> hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the
> person
> >> read this before
> >> submitting it, why not re-scan the offending
> >> page(s)? And if the submitting
> >> person didn't read it before submitting ... why
> >> submit something you haven't
> >> read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big
> >> leap of faith to do this;
> >> I've done it twice, and both times I was,
> >> thankfully, given the opportunity
> >> to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning
> >> pages that had
> >> unintelligible material. Once I was able to take
> >> advantage of the
> >> opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a
> >> very valuable lesson, as
> >> was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience.
> >> Besides, if you read
> >> something before submitting it, you get a chance
> to
> >> edit out the errors of a
> >> scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of
> >> your book.
> >> It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the
> >> offending page could've been
> >> caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered
> >> garbled pages like this when
> >> scanning with Finereader from time to time. I
> find
> >> this unlikely, though,
> >> since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads
> from
> >> the Daisy-formatted book,
> >> and doesn't "convert" it to anything.
>
> >> The only possible objection to this
> >> read-before-submitting thing that comes
> >> readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many
> fewer
> >> books would be
> >> available," to which I reply that while this is
> >> true, the quality of said
> >> books would be more consistent, more likely than
> >> not, and would lead to many
> >> more satisfying reading experiences. I submit
> many
> >> more books to
> >> Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly
> >> because I've found from my
> >> experiences that downloading a book from
> Bookshare
> >> is a rather hit-and-miss
> >> experience.
>
> >> I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any
> >> way flaming the individual
> >> who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've
> had
> >> this happen myself to
> >> two of my submissions, so the question is more or
> >> less hypothetical; I was
> >> merely relating my experience, which happened to
> >> involve that particular
> >> book.
>
> >> If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure
> >> you it's not intentional.
> >> I am frustrated, and that has probably carried
> over
> >> into my writing, despite
> >> my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I
> already
> >> have scanned the book
> >> twice unsuccessfully because of the
> affore-mentioned
> >> page-layout problem in
> >> OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is
> ...
> >> well ... frustrating.
> >> I thought about just trying to re-scan any
> >> problematic pages ... but the
> >> Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions
> don't
> >> line up, so I'd have to
> >> do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting
> and
> >> ... yikes...! I think
> >> if my problem had just been with garbled pages,
> I'd
> >> do it, but since I would
> >> have to delete all those blank lines as I read
> the
> >> Bookshare version ...
> >> I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the
> >> page-layout feature turned
> >> off and hope for better results.
>
> >> If nothing else, thanks for listening to
> (reading)
> >> me vent. I realize
> >> Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its
> existence
> >> is a wonderful thing;
> >> that's why I've joined it, and that's why I
> submit
> >> books I read. I just
> >> wish that when downloading a book to read from
> >> Bookshare, I could be more
> >> secure in the knowledge that I won't have to
> worry
> >> about encountering
> >> incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at
> what
> >> occurred in passages of
> >> a book.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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