[bookshare-discuss] Re: Ellipses and em-dashes
- From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:35:35 -0500
Hi, Lisa! The same is true of elipses. In the Braille format, the space
between periods causes them not to be translated correctly. I would
imagine, though, that if the symbol was used to create them in Word, they
would translate correctly. Take care, and thanks for deciding to become a
volunteer for Bookshare!
Jana
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Leonardi" <lml5280@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:41 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Ellipses and em-dashes
> Hi, my name is Lisa and I have been a bookshare user for almost a year
> and have recently begun to validate books. I read this posting and wanted
> to say something. Cindy, just for your information, em-dashes in the
> braille format do not have spaces surrounding them. So, a double hypen
> works to create an em-dash but the spaces are not necessary. In braile
> format, the em-dash connects the surrounding words. Example, She walked
> into the room--which was extremely cold--and began to shiver.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:27 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Ellipses and em-dashes
>
>
> > I'm glad I read more posts before explaining the
> > difference between ellipses and em dashes. Guido did a
> > very good job. I'd just like to add a little more to
> > his explanation -- but before I do, Guido -- the em
> > dash isn't retained in txt. I'm validating this in
> > Word in larger font, so I can see it better, but I did
> > what someone suggested and closed and saved it in the
> > original txt to see what formatting was kept. The em
> > dashes, line breaks, and italics all were lost. So I'm
> > following the same person's suggestion (Kellie or
> > Jana, I think) and using a doulbe hyphen,with a space
> > on either side.
> >
> > Ellipses are used, as the original poster (Was it
> > Dave?) said, to show that something has been
> > eliminated from a quotation. They can also be used to
> > show that a sentence is unfinished, as opposed to
> > being interrupted. I don't have any examples of that
> > in the book I'm doing now, but . . .
> >
> > O.K. That was one. I couldn't think of how to finish
> > the sentence, so I used ellipses. Here's another: As
> > Mary came downstairs, John said, "Maybe tonight we
> > could . . . " His voice trailed off as he saw the man
> > behind her."
> >
> > As Guido said, an em dash is a long dash, used to
> > interrupt a sentence with a different thought,
> > parenthetical or xplanatory but not necessarily strong
> > enough to be in parentheses. Here is an example from
> > the book I;m validating: "She gave a tiny laugh (em
> > dash) a nervous one, he thought (em dash) when it
> > took a minute for their strides to coordinate . . ."
> > (Here the ellipsis is because I'm not finishing the
> > sentence). Another examaple: "Daph (em dash)"
> > Another person interrupts: "I know." Here the em dash
> > shows that the person who was speaking was interrupted
> > rather than that he lost his train of thought.
> >
> > I admit that since en dashes are used so rarely, I
> > can't think at the moment of why one would be used
> > instead of an em-dash except for poetic effect, which
> > is why I think it was used in Silk.
> >
> > I hope this explanation isn't too long-winded or
> > doesn't repeat anything anyone has already written
> > that I haven't yet seen. And that it clarifies the
> > differences. As Guido says, and as you all know, a
> > hyphen connects compound words or breaks words at ends
> > of sentences when they don't fit on a line. But those
> > we close. Unfortunately, sometimes, as with the book
> > I've validating, scanners, and maybe validators, sue a
> > global replace to eliminate all hyphens and that
> > results in their being eliminated where they sometimes
> > belong.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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