That hasn't changed. Usually, when references are written in braille, it's with p., but I don't know, without having the material to look at. Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> talmidim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/13/06 03:17PM >>> I thought that p when it stands alone stood for the word people. has the rules in braille changed recentgly?