[blindeudora] Re: Eudora crashing during message delete

Ann Byrne <annakb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:39:44 -0600

Remembering that market share dictates use of resources in a software 
company, consider not only what percentage of Eudora users are visually 
impaired, but what percentage of those actually purchase Eudora.  In an 
office, MS Office/Outlook is the standard; on home PC's MS Outlook Express 
is the primary e-mail program.  Devoting time and money to the small 
percentage of us who choose Eudora is not a good business decision.

At 04:11 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
>At 10:26 a.m. 11/11/2004, Robert R. Matti wrote:
> >          I have used Eudora for many years , it seems F S is not & never
> >has been concerned if Jaws really supports Eudora.
> >It also seems to me that Qualcom doesn't really care if any blind people
> >use Eudora.
> >The above is my personal opinion.
> >What do the rest of you blind Eudora/Jaws users think?
>
>
>Have been a very happy Eudora user for six years, keeping my Eudora
>up-to-date and my Window-Eyes screen reader up-to-date.  When I did feel
>inclined to check out Jaws, its interaction with Eudora was very
>unsatisfactory, whereas Window-Eyes has in most part been flawless.  Eudora
>uses many standard functions, which don't require to much work on the part
>of the screen reader developers - in other words - it is more than 90%
>usable by a blind person using a good screen reader.  I think there are
>perhaps three features which I can't make useful to me, but that might be
>my level of skill rather than a screen reader  failure.  I've lost touch
>with how JFW does or doesn't work with Eudora, as i've given up on JFW but
>I would have thought that, given that Eudora is pretty o.k. as it installs
>with plenty of opportunity for the user to configure,  there should not
>really be any problems for JFW.  Perhaps it goes back to basic flaws in
>JFW's design.
>
>As to whether Qualcomm cares about blind users: I have no way of
>knowing.  I do know that people express the view that Qualcomm is paying
>less and less attention to the development of Eudora, but it is still being
>developed.  So: maybe the real issue is how one configures Eudora for each
>set of individual circumstances, with Jaws perhaps being part of the
>problem and maybe this is a just a set of specific unfortunate combinations
>for some people.
>
>
>
>Vaughan.
>
>
>
> >On Wednesday 11/10/2004, Leonard Salinas said:
> > >  still crashes, its a jfw issue that will probably not ever be fixed.
> > >
> > >on Wednesday 11/10/2004 02:23 PM, Curtis Delzer said:
> > >Try using 6.2 just released.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Curtis Delzer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 10:15 AM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Hi all,
> > > >I am getting consistant crashes in Eudora v5. I have tried all the
> > > >suggested steps like deleting my eudora.ini, renaming the in, out
> > trash and
> > > >junk mail boxes.
> > > >
> > > >I am going to give the steps that I can use to duplicate the crashes.
> > > >1. Download mail in eudora. Or, start Eudora and get to a bunch of 
> unread
> > > >messages.
> > > >
> > > >2. Go to one of the mail boxes and hit enter on the message you want to
> > > >read.
> > > >
> > > >3. Use the arrow keys to read the message.
> > > >
> > > >4. Hit ctrl+d to delete the current message and move to the next 
> message.
> > > >
> > > >5. Continue with this.
> > > >
> > > >After about 30 or 40 messages, Eudora will crash. I can stop the
> > crashes if
> > > >I enable the Microsoft viewer. However, I prefer having the viewer
> > > >disabled. I have tried this on 3 different computers with different
> > > >configurations and have had the same problem.
> > > >
> > > >My system configuration follows.
> > > >
> > > >as determined by Eudora
> > > >----System Information
> > > >Platform: Windows 2000
> > > >Machine Type: Intel
> > > >System Version: 5.00.2195
> > > >Processor: 586
> > > >Physical RAM Installed: 506604 Kb
> > > >Eudora: Version 6.2.0.14
> > > >Mode: Paid Mode
> > > >Registration #: 7043-9213-5552-3991
> > > >MSHTML Version: 6.00
> > > >WININET Version: 6.00
> > > >jfw version=5.10.383
> > > >video card=Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller
> > > >OS=windows 2000 professional all updates applied
> > > >Note:The memory addresses of the crashes is not always the same so it is
> > > >hard to pinpoint where the problem is.
> > > >
> > > >Any one any thoughts? A google search has not helpped nor has a lengthy
> > > >session with Qualcomm tech support.
> > > >
> > > >Pranav
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >Leonard Salinas
> > >--
> > >"So tell me, just how long have you had this feeling that no one
> > >is watching you?" (Christopher Locke: Entropy Gradient Reversals)
> > >--
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> > >ftp://okie.sytes.net[5]
> > >and find scripts for eudora 6 and jfw 5.x at
> > >http://www.coreytk.com/jfw
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