Re: wow, what an insult

  • From: "Lino Morales" <lmorales@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:32:41 -0500

Darryl give it up man! I'm sure people on this my self included are sick and 
tired of your rampages about this subject! Why don't you take this issue up  
with The Podsafe Network man I'm tired of your put-downs toward Jerry's 
efforts.. The song is now available for purchase, so give the man a break!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darrell Shandrow 
  To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: wow, what an insult


  Hi Jerry and all,

  While the sighted podcaster is allowed to have a copy of the track in about 
five minutes or less through the PMN, blind people may wait a day or more for 
the privilege of playing it on their podcast.  I don't find this acceptable and 
I certainly have a right to call it to everyone's attention without being 
accused of insulting anyone.  You messed up here and I called you out for it.  
It can't be any simpler than that.  

  BTW, making my private message to you public was unprofessional and 
inappropriate.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jerry Halatyn 
    To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:36 AM
    Subject: Re: wow, what an insult


    If you're a podcaster, send an e-mail message to info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    If you wish to purchase it, go to
    http://www.podsafeforpeace.org and you can buy it with Paypal for 99 cents.

    Cheers!
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike Babcock 
      To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:23 AM
      Subject: Re: wow, what an insult


      I am wanting this song, could someone e-mail it to me, or could someone 
tell me whair I may find it?
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jerry Halatyn 
        To: Darrell Shandrow 
        Cc: Adam Curry ; C.C. Chapman ; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Marlaina 
Lieberg ; Jeff Bishop 
        Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:38 PM
        Subject: Re: wow, what an insult


        Darrell, First of all, I don't subscribe to your podcast and  I don't 
follow your journal. It was brought to my attention by someone else.

        Second, your facts are wrong about the song not being available to 
blind podcasters. The song is and always was available directly from me. Jeff 
asked if he could give it to other podcasters and decided to post it on his 
website. As I said, there was no way of ensuring that only podcasters would 
receive the song so, it was decided by both of us to change the method of 
delivery. The inaccessibility of the Podsafe Music Network is not nmy problem. 
Deal with it.

        That this is not endorsed by UNICEF is entirely correct but that has no 
bearing on whether it is a legitimate project. This project was only born on 
October 31st of this year when Adam played the tune and had the idea of making 
it a benefit. Do you think that anyone could've gotten UNICEF to endorse it in 
no time at all? Fat chance.

        Further, I worked my fingers to the bone for almost 30 straight days, 
pulling 12 to 16 hour days with no pay, no financial support from any other 
entity. I paid all out-of pocket expenses by myself. I registered domain names. 
I'm paying a designer who is designing and maintaining the website. I'm 
spending hours upon hours, helping people who are having trouble here and there 
with downloads or payments to Paypal. I'm spending hours upon hours writing and 
editing press releases, e-mailing mainstream media, setting up interviews. I'm 
about to hire a publicist to try and spread the word about this benefit 
project. All of this is at my own expense. I not only don't make money on this 
deal -- I actually lose money. These are all, of course, facts that you would 
have no knowledge of but would just as soon not need to come to your conclusion 
that it's not a project worth supporting and even boycotting.

        And you say no good deed goes unpunished? yes, indeed, how true it is. 
You have clearly illustrated this adage.

        You're so clueless that you don't even realize how insulting you can 
be. Further, you have no concept of how you come across to others. You've 
demonstrated that publicly. Feel free to express your opinions publicaly and 
I'll do the same.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Darrell Shandrow 
          To: Slau 
          Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:39 AM
          Subject: Re: wow, what an insult


          Hey Jerry,

          Glad to see you listening and reading the journal.  :-)  
Unfortunately, due to requests for a number of changes Jeff felt the need to 
take down the accessible means to download the song, thus this avenue is no 
longer available to us.  PMN is currently inaccessible, both in use and 
registration.  Those are the facts.  Jeff made a way for us to get the song and 
to report back on who was downloading it.  That was extremely fair.  That 
method had to be taken down.  Little or no consideration was given to the hours 
Jeff spent setting it all up in the first place.  In any case, there is no 
insult intended here.  There is no other way for podcasters to freely download 
the song for play on their podcasts other than PMN, which is still 
inaccessible.  I'm disappointed and upset with you for some things surrounding 
the project, and I have a right to publicly express my displeasure.  Everything 
I am saying is based on the facts, including the fact that this is not an 
official UNICEF project officially endorsed by that charity, so we have no way 
of knowing, 100 percent certain, where the proceeds will go.  Facts.  Sorry.  
Especially due to the accessibility issues, I feel completely free to make sure 
all the facts are obvious for everyone, as well as to discourage others from 
playing this on their shows.

          Lesson should be learned next time to make sure the needs of your 
blind brothers and sisters are correctly and completely accomodated in all that 
you do.  Whenever that is not the case, you may expect flack from accessibility 
evangelists such as myself.





            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Slau 
            To: Darrell Shandrow 
            Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:35 PM
            Subject: wow, what an insult


            Wow, how insulting that you would be dissappointed in my 
accommodation for blind persons to download a broadcast copy of the Podsafe for 
Peace song. I actually went out of my way to make sure it was available through 
Jeff Bishop's site. You've obviously not considered the fact that people with 
no podcast feeds were downloading the song. What kind of sense is that? 
Downloading a song for free that's supposed to be a fund-raiser?

            Thanks a lot.

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