RE: wow, what an insult

  • From: "Debbie Hazelton" <healinghands4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:39:26 -0500

Besides, I remember Jeff saying it was off topic one day last week.  I
really don't appreciate any more about it.  It was a beautiful effort.
Enough rain on the parade.


From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:33 PM
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

Darryl give it up man! I'm sure people on this my self included are sick and
tired of your rampages about this subject! Why don't you take this issue up
with The Podsafe Network man I'm tired of your put-downs toward Jerry's
efforts.. The song is now available for purchase, so give the man a break!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Darrell  <mailto:nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Shandrow 
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

Hi Jerry and all,
While the sighted podcaster is allowed to have a copy of the track in about
five minutes or less through the PMN, blind people may wait a day or more
for the privilege of playing it on their podcast.  I don't find this
acceptable and I certainly have a right to call it to everyone's attention
without being accused of insulting anyone.  You messed up here and I called
you out for it.  It can't be any simpler than that.  
BTW, making my private message to you public was unprofessional and

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jerry Halatyn <mailto:jhalatyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

If you're a podcaster, send an e-mail message to info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If you wish to purchase it, go to and you can buy it with Paypal for 99 cents.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike  <mailto:mouki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Babcock 
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

I am wanting this song, could someone e-mail it to me, or could someone tell
me whair I may find it?
Michael A. Babcock is sending this message.
Is his e-mail address
All respect goes to those who want to and do help him make his life funnier
and easier. Especially Jessica.
You can call him at:
And at:
541-223-3501 (Cell)
"And can you offer me proof of your existence? How can you, when neither
modern science, nor philosophy can explain what life is?" Ghost In the Shell
"Men have always fought each other, have always created chaos; that's
familiar and safe. They always know where they are in those circumstances.
But, to
Hazardly step into the unknown and love one another is far to risky for
them." Demon City Shin Joku
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jerry Halatyn <mailto:jhalatyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: Darrell Shandrow <mailto:nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
Cc: Adam Curry <mailto:adam@xxxxxxxxx>  ; C.C.
<mailto:cc.chapman@xxxxxxxxx> Chapman ; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
Marlaina Lieberg <mailto:blindcast@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  ; Jeff
<mailto:jeff.bishop@xxxxxxxxx> Bishop 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

Darrell, First of all, I don't subscribe to your podcast and  I don't follow
your journal. It was brought to my attention by someone else.
Second, your facts are wrong about the song not being available to blind
podcasters. The song is and always was available directly from me. Jeff
asked if he could give it to other podcasters and decided to post it on his
website. As I said, there was no way of ensuring that only podcasters would
receive the song so, it was decided by both of us to change the method of
delivery. The inaccessibility of the Podsafe Music Network is not nmy
problem. Deal with it.
That this is not endorsed by UNICEF is entirely correct but that has no
bearing on whether it is a legitimate project. This project was only born on
October 31st of this year when Adam played the tune and had the idea of
making it a benefit. Do you think that anyone could've gotten UNICEF to
endorse it in no time at all? Fat chance.
Further, I worked my fingers to the bone for almost 30 straight days,
pulling 12 to 16 hour days with no pay, no financial support from any other
entity. I paid all out-of pocket expenses by myself. I registered domain
names. I'm paying a designer who is designing and maintaining the website.
I'm spending hours upon hours, helping people who are having trouble here
and there with downloads or payments to Paypal. I'm spending hours upon
hours writing and editing press releases, e-mailing mainstream media,
setting up interviews. I'm about to hire a publicist to try and spread the
word about this benefit project. All of this is at my own expense. I not
only don't make money on this deal -- I actually lose money. These are all,
of course, facts that you would have no knowledge of but would just as soon
not need to come to your conclusion that it's not a project worth supporting
and even boycotting.
And you say no good deed goes unpunished? yes, indeed, how true it is. You
have clearly illustrated this adage.
You're so clueless that you don't even realize how insulting you can be.
Further, you have no concept of how you come across to others. You've
demonstrated that publicly. Feel free to express your opinions publicaly and
I'll do the same.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Darrell  <mailto:nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Shandrow 
To: Slau <mailto:slau@xxxxxxxx>  
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: wow, what an insult

Hey Jerry,
Glad to see you listening and reading the journal.  :-)  Unfortunately, due
to requests for a number of changes Jeff felt the need to take down the
accessible means to download the song, thus this avenue is no longer
available to us.  PMN is currently inaccessible, both in use and
registration.  Those are the facts.  Jeff made a way for us to get the song
and to report back on who was downloading it.  That was extremely fair.
That method had to be taken down.  Little or no consideration was given to
the hours Jeff spent setting it all up in the first place.  In any case,
there is no insult intended here.  There is no other way for podcasters to
freely download the song for play on their podcasts other than PMN, which is
still inaccessible.  I'm disappointed and upset with you for some things
surrounding the project, and I have a right to publicly express my
displeasure.  Everything I am saying is based on the facts, including the
fact that this is not an official UNICEF project officially endorsed by that
charity, so we have no way of knowing, 100 percent certain, where the
proceeds will go.  Facts.  Sorry.  Especially due to the accessibility
issues, I feel completely free to make sure all the facts are obvious for
everyone, as well as to discourage others from playing this on their shows.
Lesson should be learned next time to make sure the needs of your blind
brothers and sisters are correctly and completely accomodated in all that
you do.  Whenever that is not the case, you may expect flack from
accessibility evangelists such as myself.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Slau <mailto:slau@xxxxxxxx>  
To: Darrell Shandrow <mailto:nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: wow, what an insult

Wow, how insulting that you would be dissappointed in my accommodation for
blind persons to download a broadcast copy of the Podsafe for Peace song. I
actually went out of my way to make sure it was available through Jeff
Bishop's site. You've obviously not considered the fact that people with no
podcast feeds were downloading the song. What kind of sense is that?
Downloading a song for free that's supposed to be a fund-raiser?
Thanks a lot.

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