[blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
- From: Steve <pipeguy920@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:36:09 -0500
Yeah, I just looked up the specs. They claimed ten inch.
They were certainly a great speaker for their time. But, design has gone up
several notches since then; I have a pair of Acoustic Research AR-9's in my
second system; those were nice back in the 1980s but today you can buy
speakers for half their price that run circles around them; at least if you
get large floor-standing ones.
I am actually leaning toward a good sub with smaller speakers just because
of space considerations.
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From: Gerald Levy
To: blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: [blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
The specs for the large Advent gave the woofer diameter as 12", but it
actually measured more like 10", but it was definitely larger than 8". One
thing I rmember about the woofer in this speaker is that there was putty or
some other gunk around the frame, which wasn't very attractive, and gave the
woofer a cheapo appearance. But for its price, it was hard to beat. As far
as blowing the tweeters, my Advents were connected to a Sansui 9090DB
receiver which pumped out 125 watts RMS per channel, making it the most
powerful two-channel receiver of its time, and I never blew them.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:02 PM
Subject: [blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
Couple comments. I had a pair of large Advents back in the 70's and they
did not have that large of a woofer; it wouldn't have been more than 8-inch
max. And, if you drove it too hard; the cross-over network wouldn't handle
it and would blow the tweeter.
They came out in 1971, and I got a chance to meet Henry Kloss at the CES
in 1976.
For bookshelf speakers with smooth extended bass, maybe the Dayton RS-180
if they are still available. But, most bookshelf speakers won't reporduce
bass and a satellite system with a subwoofer would be better if you don't
have room for a floor-standing set of speakers.
Frank, as for your comment about bass management; sub placement is
critical. But, I'd rather screw aroound with that and phasing and such than
trying to get a pair of eyes to help navigate the bass management menus on
my components.
By the way, I have a Yamaha receiver; Sony SACD changer; Definitive
Technology floor standing speakers with built-in power subs; as well as
DefTech center and rurrounds.
My DVD-Audio player's DVD laser just died; so I'm in the process of
getting a replacement DVD-A player for the system.
Steve
Lansing, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: Frankie Ventura
To: blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:02 AM
Subject: [blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
This is true and all very well stated. It is almost assumed by speaker
manufacturers these days that a separate sub will be used. Not that there is
anything wrong with that but it brings up questions such as sub placement,
cost, and base management. Does your pre-amp or receiver have any base
management built in? If not then those settings must be made on the sub
itself and are not readily accessible, especially if the sub is in a corner
or tucked under a table.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blindav-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindav-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:29 AM
To: blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
The problem with bookshelf speakers these days is that they're not built
like they used to be. In the heyday of two-channel stereo in the 1970's and
1980's , you could buy a great-sounding pair of bookshelf speakers like the
original large Advents or AR5A's with 10" or 12" woofers that could really
pump out the bass. But today, most bookshelf speakers are designed to work
with separate subwoofers and so usually have woofers no larger than 6.5",
which means that decent bass response is seriously compromised. You can't
even find bookshelf speakers with 8" woofers anymore. So if you have a
small listening room that cannot accomodate a floor-standing subwoofer,or
live in an apartment where using a floor-standing subwoofer would disturb
the downstairs neigbors, you're pretty much out of luck. Most bookshelf
speakers I have seen only go down to about 45 Hz. My large Advents could go
all the way down to about 25 Hz. My current bookshelf speakers, a pair of
JBL LXE-990's 3-way speakers that I bought about 20 years ago, are actually
tower speakers with 10" woofers, but because their cabinets are only 10"
deep, they fit nicely on my bookshelves. Nobody makes speakers like these
anymore.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindav@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:11 PM
Subject: [blindav] Re: bookshelf speakers
> Bud, certainly not off topic, actually right on topic. I have always
found
> most powered speakers with few exceptions to be a bit of a compromise
but
> lets see what others say.
> Frank
>
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> Hi gang,
> I'm new here and don't know what is off topic but have a question about
> speakers. I am moving from a good size house into a converted garage
> apartment so am having to get rid of a lot of things including my floor
> speakers. I'm thinking of getting some "bookshelf speakers'" and am
> wondering what some good ones would be. I was thinking of unamplified
> ones,
> although my tuner-amp is about 20 years old and wonder if it's output
> would
> be as good as that of amplified speakers I would appreciate any input
> about
> some quality bookshelf speakers.
> Thanks..
>
>
> Bud Schwab
> W 6 Z Y P
> Malibu, California
>
>
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