At present I am defending a challenge from Edward. I suggest if edward wins he should stay at the top as he will have achieved that in 2013. I do not have strong views as to how we should change at the year end but I tend to agree with Edward the ladder should be reversed. This means I should go to the bottom whatever happens in my game with Edward. ----- Original Message ----- From: R Dinger To: chess Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:29 PM Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Tournament Champion for 2012 Please join me in congratulating Stan Lovell for winning the Ladder Tournament ending in 2012. Since the players want to continue the Ladder, how do we want to mix it up now that the new year is upon us? In the past we have reversed the standings. As an alternative the ftp-chess list simply pushes the winner to the middle of the Ladder. Another idea is to reverse the top half and put them under the bottom half (rod's idea I think). Please let me know what method the players want to use or suggest an additional method. Richard